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A member of the Intelligence-Security Agency of Bosnia and Herzegovina says he spoke to Milorad Skrbic while investigating the murder at Koricanske stijene and "determined that he did not have any operational data about this event".



Political Developments Spark Kosovo Identity Debate

Tirana, Pristina and Skopje | 20 October 2009 | By Arjan Konomi
 

Following decades of enforced separation, Albanians are discussing how different they've become.

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On a hot summer’s day, a group of friends is sitting in a seaside cafe in southern Albania. Erleta, the daughter of a dissident in Kosovo, and Tomi, a native of Tirana, have much in common.

However, as is usual in the Balkans, they are divided when discussing the past. Tomi believes the former communist regime in Albania was far more oppressive than Josip Tito’s regime in Yugoslavia. Erleta disagrees.

Poverty and hunger were routine in communist Albania, Tomi adds, while people in Kosovo could own property, practice their religion and emigrate to the West, if they wished.

However, Erleta insists that oppression cannot be measured in terms of material goods alone. “Try enjoying a table full of food while somebody is striking you in the face,” she replies, searching for a metaphor to convey the oppression that Albanians felt they experienced in Kosovo. “And don’t refer to us as Kosovars,” she adds. “We too are Albanians”.

The two friends’ heated dispute is a reminder of the fact that, while all Albanians supported Kosovo’s revolt against Serbian rule, Kosovo’s independence since 2008 has thrown up questions concerning the new state’s identity, and about whether it differs from Albania’s.

Some see the attempt to promote a specific Kosovar identity as imposed and invented and reject it as artificial. Others feel more positive. Either way, the question is a hot topic in Pristina, Tirana and Skopje, among intellectuals, politicians and ordinary people alike.
 

Divided by borders

The origins of the questions concerning Kosovo’s identity date back to the Balkan War of 1912, when Serbia, Montenegro, Greece, Romania and Bulgaria overran the last remaining swathe of Ottoman-ruled territory in the Balkans.

The result of the London Peace Conference of 1913 was the partition of Macedonia between the victors and the creation of an independent Albania.

However, almost half of the region’s ethnic Albanian population was left out of the new country after Serbia annexed Kosovo and what is now the Republic of Macedonia.

Though still united by a common language and heritage, a state border now divided Albanians in Albania and Albanians in Kosovo.

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This article was produced as part of the Balkan Fellowship for Journalistic Excellence, an initiative of the Robert Bosch Stiftung and ERSTE Foundation, in cooperation with the Balkan Investigative Reporting Network, BIRN.

 



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Kosovar or Albanian?
2009-10-20 18:35:52
I don't understand pplz who are trying to convince us that we are Kosovars... I have discussed a lot with friends of mine from Albania and Macedonia... and it doesn't really make any sense any political issue that the politicians try to use to make it more believable... We are all albanians, no matter if inside or outside the Albania state territory... Calling us any different name doesn't make us any less albanians... besides... more than 90 percent of the names [of the young pplz of course]in Kosova are typical albanian... so no matter how much they try they won't make us be not albanians... other thing is very important and true... almost all the countries in Europe call us Kosovo Alban, not Kosovar... so Quit it... it just never will become true... We'll never be Kosovars... WE'RE ALBANIANS ;) Greetings from a very proud Kosova Alban Girl! Genta

Yeap Genta... You are right...
2009-10-20 19:42:23
You are member of albanian minority of Republic of Serbia...

Kosovars???
2009-10-20 21:58:15
Genta, then why are you guys imposing the term Bosnian on the Serbs who live there? Why insist on Bosnia's identity when clearly there are Serbs and Croats living there with a small number of minorities and of course Muslims who are the only ones calling themselves Bosnian. Than alone implies that Bosnia is for the Muslims as nobody elese identifies themself like that. Double standards is all I can say.


2009-10-20 23:50:53
Milan, that was before you got bombed.


2009-10-21 00:18:08
I'm sorry that ur so not informed Milan... but the reality is different... open up your eyes... ;)

There will be Greater Albania
2009-10-21 04:00:56
Albania and Kosova will unite!

Reunite Albanians
2009-10-21 04:15:13
Srbs will have to recongnize Kosova as a state soon, or they will be forced to recognize United States of Albania.


2009-10-21 11:03:38
I have to commend the author for a very balanced article on this sensitive issue. Unfortunately, you don't find such deprogrammed reporting from BIRN's Prishtina journalists.

one nation was,,, and one will bee for ever.......
2009-10-21 12:16:18
AS every one knows...the are north IRLAND..and REPULIC off IRLAND...ok so here are a same nation...so here we have a same thing in BALKAN...wich every one knows about ALBANIAN nation and about ALBANIAN flag and ALBANIAN history...wich is the great in reigen off BALKAN..so when i was i ALBANIA befor week ago in holiday..when i was crossing the border from ALBANIAN side to get to other side off ALBANIAN wich evry one called KOSOVO...one thing i really liked was dhe the POLICE from KOSOVO...very polite PLOICE and very good Attitude..and one off them saide ...have you got all decuments with you,,,and i saide off course i have...so and he ask me wher are you going ...i saide in KOSOVO,,,so he saide,, do not say KOSOVO agian..because all land here is ALBANIAN... is one [1] wich is united OFF ALBANIA...you konw what i was,, so emotional for the time being ..so i start Crying ...i saide to my self ohh GOD,,,this is so good to me ...i am in the lend off great KING off ALBANIAN pepole...wich is SKENDERBEG...so never it will be diferent betwin ALABANIAN pepole from KOSOVO and ALBANIAN pepole from ALBANIAN,,it will rimening for ever,, one nation,, and it will fligh one flag for ever end ever...

No way
2009-10-21 15:17:45
There is no such thing as a Kosovar,we are all Albanians devided forcefully by Europe in the London Conference 1912 and united forever with our language,history and flag!!Not much has changed since 100 years ago Europe is the same,she is determined to make us Ballkans native american indians but it will never ever happen!!We are the oldest nation,proud of our origin,we are not a political nation so that we can switch identities anytime is convenient for us like serbs,or bulgarians of fyrom,we are Albanians and always will remain as such!!


2009-10-21 15:32:11
Future is bright for the western Ballkans, especialy for Albanians. Look to the future!!! sorry Peggy I don't think you would like bright future for the region.

Forced Identity debate
2009-10-21 21:04:12
There is no identity issue between Albanians in Albanian inhabited lands. Whoever knows the region would understand that there are no differences between the Albanians in northern Albania and in Kosova and in Macedonia for example. All the Albanians living in these lands form a uniform ethnic entity forced to live beyond state borders that have been imposed on them. The only difference is with southern Albanians who speak a different dialect distinguishable from the northern one as is Yorkshire English different from that spoken in the south. As with many things in the Balkans, the identity differences among Albanians has often been emphasised and blown out of proportions to serve the nationalistic interests of our not-so-well-meaning neighbourrs in Serbia, Macedoania and Greece.

Re: 4 Peggy "Kosovars???"
2009-10-22 17:07:39
Dear peggy!!! Did you ever heard that Albanians from Shqiperia have committed genocide over Albanians from Kosova or vice-verse? Your parallelism with Bosnian stand out of the most elementary logic. On the other side Albanians from Shqiperia, Albanians from Kosova and all those from other Ethnic Albanian territory have same national characteristics except slight regional differences and the story they have experienced mostly the second half of the last century. Dear Peggy, You commenting too much about Albanians but it will be better if you get enough time to know them before commenting. 4 God sake I'm not saying at all you should share the same opinion with me but @ least write s.th to be worth of it. Good luck

same old story
2009-10-24 20:55:54
Haven’t been around this websites over a year and what I find? Saaammmeee BLA BLA BLA….what the hell all of you are talking about!!!! as if there is not enough problems that our respective societies have to go trough daily….economic crisis, unemployment, crime, corruption, shortage of electricity and water supply, waste etc etc….and you talk about undisputable topic like identity!!! Identity of who you are you just have it, you don’t have to talk about it…yeah it was quite important to talk about it centuries ago ….not know….hmm if I think better maybe there is something you can do today…ROLL UP YOUR SLEEVS AND WORK HARD FOR YOUR COUNTRY…that’s how you’ll show your identity with pride and ya’ll be more busy and less frustrated, maybe than you quit throwing your crap in here with all that arrogance.. P.S. How many of you in here know the difference between nationality and ethnicity!!! Don’t bother to wait for my future reactions…it won’t happen..

Greater Albania
2009-10-25 01:01:00
We all know that the thing with the Albanian 25 year old whining and mourning about "human rights" were just the cover for the Albanian core project of creating Greater Albania. And that was legitimate political goal. But since Albanians executed that project by confronting with every single neighbor, now they are in not so good, or better to say, they are in very bad position. If you look at the map, you'll see that Greater Albania is a appendix of Europe. Their nearest connection to EU is through Serbia. Is there anyone who believe that Serbia will let Greater Albania to connect to EU through its territory for free? I don't think so. So, my friendly advice to Albanians is - don't live in your la-la land of "independence", but face the reality on the ground. Start talking with Serbia as soon as possible, or you'll face the impossible mission of traveling to Europe via Macedonia, Bulgaria and Romania (if Macedonia let you to do that). Or you may try the other way through Montenegro, Croatia, Bosnia, then again Croatia... That means you'll have to add to your mileage about 1000 km more then if you try to connect through Serbia. Think little about that. All the best

Greater Albania
2009-10-25 01:01:46
We all know that the thing with the Albanian 25 year old whining and mourning about "human rights" were just the cover for the Albanian core project of creating Greater Albania. And that was legitimate political goal. But since Albanians executed that project by confronting with every single neighbor, now they are in not so good, or better to say, they are in very bad position. If you look at the map, you'll see that Greater Albania is a appendix of Europe. Their nearest connection to EU is through Serbia. Is there anyone who believe that Serbia will let Greater Albania to connect to EU through its territory for free? I don't think so. So, my friendly advice to Albanians is - don't live in your la-la land of "independence", but face the reality on the ground. Start talking with Serbia as soon as possible, or you'll face the impossible mission of traveling to Europe via Macedonia, Bulgaria and Romania (if Macedonia let you to do that). Or you may try the other way through Montenegro, Croatia, Bosnia, then again Croatia... That means you'll have to add to your mileage about 1000 km more then if you try to connect through Serbia. Think little about that. All the best

ALBANIANS
2009-10-26 11:02:58
@ Peggy, im not surprise by ur comment, the reson 4 that is because u r a Serb, 2nd, Albanians in the Republic of Kosovo and those in Republic of Albania r the same plp, the entire planet knows that, 3d, some countries out there especialy those in Balkans did try to seperate them, but they failed, starting from Ottoman empire all the way to the Serbs, yet,more then 500 yrs l8r? these plp r more united with eachother than any other nations out there..its a fact, they both r Albanians & both share the same blood,.. who ever wrote this article i say they have no idea abt Albanians.. greetings 2 all Albanians and wish u all the best and peacful future.. from UK..

Political Developments Spark Kosovo Identity Debate
2009-10-26 22:13:02
when people say he is kosovar albanian meaning there from kosova because until albania and the province of kosova join then the name kosova will die down we will be one albania we will say we are from albania until then eu wants too dived us wake up people we must join know and take the name kosova out and call it albania prishtin would be a province of albania just like queebce united we stand dived we fall because eu country dived us they will never united us but the people who are running this country kosova @ albania care is about money no more no less tachi bersiha and the rest of them clowns makes me sad seeing our history going down may god bles us and mother albania and her children outside of albania

Bosnia
2009-10-27 02:27:17
To john m dulliey, My comment was about Bosnia and Bosnians. It had absolutely nothing to do with Kosovo or Ablania so why are you distorting what I said? Actually I agree with you on the point that K-Albanians are the same people as Albanians from anywhere. Why is it that I am constanly reading about Kosovars as a race and not Albanians from Kosovo as a race? Why are some "Kosovars" claiming to be Kosovars? I never call K-Albanians that because I know better but it seems that Albanians from Kosovo do, at least some do. Shefi, I do want a good future to all the people in the Balkan region. Where did you get the idea that I don't? Just because my terminology is different to yours, (again my post was about Bosnia and who is Bosnian and who is not) does not mean I want a horrible future for the people there. I would appeciate not having words put in my mouth in the future. Kindly address what I write, not what you want to belive I write.

To Alban
2009-10-27 02:33:06
"Dear Peggy, You commenting too much about Albanians but it will be better if you get enough time to know them before commenting. 4 God sake I'm not saying at all you should share the same opinion with me but @ least write s.th to be worth of it. Good luck alban.kcomment@gmail.com Dear Alban, What makes you think that I don't know what is going on and therefore cannot comment? It is only your opinion that I write too much about the issue. Perhaps you are the one who writes too much and should slow down. I can tell you to learn something before you comment as well, but I will not be as arrogant as you and will not say it. You presume too much. You don't know what I know and where my knowledge comes from. You are free to disagree with me but don't presume to tell me or anyone else to learn something. I can tell you the same thing.

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