US Bosnia Resolution Triggers Disputes

The Bosnian people already voted on what kind of state they want when in the 1992 referendum 66% of Bosnian citizens voted for Bosnia and Herzegovina to become an independent, sovereign, multi-ethnic, capitalist, and democratic state. That is the choice of the vast majority of Bosnian citizens and their choice needs to be respected.

Things have changed quite a bit since then. I wonder how many would vote for the same thing now. From what I know, Croats are not happy in that union. They want their Herceg Bosna which will bring that percentage way down now. Let's have another referendum and see what the current situation is. Wouldn't that be more accurate and fair than going back to 1992?

Two of 3 constitutional nations of Bosnia wanted an independent country but also there was one nation that didn't agree with that decision. That has triggered a brutal civil war. Republika Srpska is now a reality, Dayton agreement is a reality, as much as reality that the former "multi-ethnic" Yugoslavia doesn't exist anymore. You can't have both ways in the Balkans.

The truth is Bosnia is a shambles how can a country function when children go to schools with disparate eductional syllabuses. Where intolerance and religeous bigotry is engrained on all sides from birth. Where war profiteers especially in the Federation own everything whilst people are fed by soup kitchens.If Bosnia was a Democracy religion would not be used as an ethnicity. Why not have a census?.We know why because the Serbs would be a majority as most Bosniaks(sic)have left to earn a living in the west as there are no jobs back in the homeland.

...two colossal lies by Bosniak campus. First - 66% of those who showed up at the referendum polls in B&H '92., were 66% of ELECTORAL BODY, and not of the B&H citizens. Little more then 87% of those 66% voted for dismembering of Yugoslavia, which makes, in absolute numbers, about 53% of B&H electoral body, and NOT OF THE B&H POPULATION! Second - those who voted "YES" in that referendum, voted for the DISMEMBERING OF YUGOSLAVIA, and not for the multi-ethnic, capitalist and democratic state. God only knows what would became of Bosnia if they succeeded to push that referendum through. But, having in mind the book by late B-Muslim leader mr. Alija Izetbegovic, entitled "Islamic declaration" (1970), which called for the introduction of Sharia law in then secular republic of B&H, and which served, and still serving as a cornerstone of B-Muslim ideology, I have very serious doubts that such B&H would be multi-ethnic, capitalist and above all - democratic.

When does the whole of Serbia, including Kosovo Albanians, get to vote on the status of Kosovo with everyone agreeing to respect the outcome?

When did Milosevic, Karadzic, and Mladic ask the Bosniaks and Bosnian Croats if they wanted to be murdered and ethnically cleansed from northwestern and eastern Bosnia? Oh wait maybe they were too busy committing war crimes to worry about democracy.

...two deliberate forgeries of the Truth. First - 66% of those who showed up at the referendum polls in B&H '92., were 66% of ELECTORAL BODY, and not of the B&H citizens. Little more then 87% of those 66% voted for dismembering of Yugoslavia, which makes, in absolute numbers, about 53% of B&H electoral body, and NOT OF THE B&H POPULATION! Second - those who voted "YES" in that referendum, voted for the DISMEMBERING OF YUGOSLAVIA, and not for the multi-ethnic, capitalist and democratic state. God only knows what would became of Bosnia if they succeeded to push that referendum through. But, having in mind the book by late B-Muslim leader mr. Alija Izetbegovic, entitled "Islamic declaration" (1970), which called for the introduction of Sharia law in then secular republic of B&H, and which served, and still serving as a cornerstone of B-Muslim ideology, I have very serious doubts that such B&H would be multi-ethnic, capitalist and above all - democratic.

The majority of Bosnian citizens voted for Bosnia and Herzegovina to become an independent, sovereign, and democratic state in 1992. I don't ever remember the Bosnian people being asked if they approved of the creation of the "RS" entity. It was forced upon them by murder, ethnic cleansing, and genocide orchestrated by Bosnian Serb leaders such as the war criminals Karadzic and Mladic with help from the Serbian president and war criminal Milosevic.

...aaahh, forget it!

Defenderoftruth, please choose another name because you are a butcher of truth. I'll ask you something. When did the wedding guests, and especially the groom's father, ask to be murdered by attending a Serbian wedding and waving a Serbian flag? Is this a crime punishable by death? You threw the first punch so to speak and now come on here pretending it's the Serbs who are bad. You have many war criminals and Serbs did not ever ask to be murdered by your lot either. War is brutal and many get killed, by your people and their Arab friends killed many, many innocent Serbs. So, get off your high moral horse and start being what your name claims to be.

The American calvary is NOT coming.The U.S. Congress is a circus not a serious legislative body.Our military is overextended and battered and we are bankrupt,broke and busted.Make your peace with the Serbs...we will not save you again.

And just whom do you consider under "Bosnian citizens"? Only B-Muslims? B-Croats and B-Serbs are not "Bosnian citizens"? When mr.Izetbegovic, Silajdzuc, Ganic and other B-Muslim leaders asked B-Serbs if they wanted to be murdered and ethnically cleansed from Central and Western Bosnia and from cities of Sarajevo, Tuzla, Zenica, Bihac etc..., just for the sake of establishing B-Muslim government in Sarajevo? Anyway, referendum you are talking about took place more then 17 years ago. So, stop living in the past, and put your vote for a new referendum with the question if citizens of Bosnia want to live in unitary Bosnia, with the central government in Sarajevo. Only after that new referendum you will get the grip on today's reality in Bosnia. Or, maybe you are afraid of that new referendum? I wonder why.

Nobody is expecting Americans to fight for Bosnia's national sovereignty, independence, and the freedom of its people. The Bosnian people will fight for their own survival and freedoms all they need is the military help and political support of their friends in the US and EU. I sincerely hope that another war will not break out since it will only make the situation worse but if it does there will be plenty of Bosnian citizens willing and able to fight for their country just as they did in the 90s. Bosnian citizens appreciate all the help that the US has offered to their country and the US-Bosnian friendship has been an important part in keeping the region stable and allowing progress to occur hopefully that political and economic friendship will continue to develop and strengthen over time.

There is no "Bosnian people". There are only B-Croats, B-Serbs and B-Muslims (or Bosniaks). And B-Croats and B-Serbs are not interested to start another war in Bosnia. If there is a chance of outbreak of another war, only B-Muslims could start it, since they are submerged into the Past, craving for unitary Bosnia.

All the citizens of Bosnia and Herzegovina are collectively called the Bosnian people. A citizen of Bosnia and Herzegovina is a Bosnian and that is a national term which has nothing to do with religion or ethnicity.

No matter what all the defenders of Greater Serbia say, the facts on the ground are very different. Many Bosnian Serbs are leaving Bosnia for Serbia - but NOT from Bosniak areas, from the "RS". The Bosniaks will be an absolute majority by about 2018. So how is Serbia going to bring Bosnia, or parts of it, into Serbia, except by using military force? It will then be the same as in Kosovo. How do they think they will get Kosovo back against the will of the majority of its inhabitants, even if the ICJ were to rule in their favor which I doubt. They can try it with military means of course, and then they will be hit over the head again. So the Bosnian Serbs "do not want to be ruled by Muslims"? So what? The Muslims do not want to "rule" them anyway. As long as the Serbs behave themselves, that is, refrain from trying to destroy the country, no one will harm them in any way. But (at least if it were up to me that's what I would do) who raises his hand against the state won't have the time to regret it. Haven't you ever heard that "the hand which you can't cut off, you have to shake it"? The Bosniaks will NOT relinquish their homeland, they are not going anywhere, not to Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Madagascar, all over the world, and neither are the Kosovars. So the Bosnian Serbs are very well advised to arrange and reconciliate themselves with the Bosniaks. I'm telling you this not because I hate the Serbs (but whenever some of them start with their ultranationalist diatribes I wish I could do something really bad to them), but because 1. Logic says that this is so, just as 2+2=4 and not 5 or 3; and 2. because some of your own have already said so (not all Serbs are stupid or behave like the village idiot, but the number of those who still do is staggering.) Else, some years from now I can only see one outcome. One thing is certain: The Cross will NEVER chase the Crescent out of Bosnia. Forget about that. And don't believe that Russia would be so foolish to go to war over the Serbs. Czar Nicholas II (who was an idiot) was actually crazy to do so, and in the end it cost him his throne, his realm, his family, his life, everything. Stalin did not stop Tito from getting out of the Iron Curtain even though the Stalinists crushed the uprisings in East Germany, Hungary and Czecholsovakia and drowned them in blood. So why should Putin mess himself up in the Balkans? He did not hesitate to leave the Serbs out in the cold last winter when he turned off the gas tap to Ucrania. Germany and Japan had to give up their dreams of an empire in 1945. Time Serbia did too, before it has to go through its own 1945. And I'm only talking sensibly to them. No need to get mad at me, to hurl invective and insults at me, to explode with sanctimonious rage and monstrous hate (though I must admit that sometimes I wish I could see the faces of such luminaries as "puggy" or "Lord Haw-Haw-Hawk" [and you should really look up what I mean by Lord Haw-Haw]. To think how mad they get; and how they come up with always the same stories of whitewashing and denial, because they don't have anything - anything at all - to exonerate themselves. And one thing is for sure, if the Serbs think they must try it with Dr. Karadzic's recipe again, they will not find the Bosniaks bare-handed like last time.

I find it really stupid for Bosniaks, Croats and Serbs abusing their power in the country. No one askes the people of BiH if they want war? or a multi-ethnic country or a job? All the leaders of BiH are scum, who steal from their own people and say things their nationalist friends wanna hear. I myself want functional BiH where religion does not matter nor does the name Bosnian. People of BiH are Bosnians and period

Dear Radoslav, Yes, you have said it right. I couldn't agree with you more. As you say, a functional Bosnia would be the best. I wish there were more insightful Bosnians (Serbs, Croats, Bosniaks, their ethnic or religious background is not important) like you around. And I wish I will live to see it. Bosnia-Herzegovina can only work if all its inhabitants are given the right to live according to their traditions and lifestyle anywhere in Bosnia they want to, or where their families lived for many years or centuries. This means the right of the people expelled from Foca or Srebrenica to return there, and to get their houses and their land back as much as the Serbs of Sarajevo. It means that the destroyed historic mosques must be rebuilt exactly as the historic churches and monasteries which were destroyed in the war. That no one is discriminated against for reasons of religion or ethnicity when he applies for a job. That schoolchildren are no longer taught to hate the "other". That not only the Bosnian Serbs (the Croats) give up their idea of a Greater Serbia (or a Greatwer Croatia) at the expense of Bosnia-Herzegovina, but that any notion of establishing an Islamic Republic in Bosnia is abandoned. Fundamentalism has not helped the Muslims much, it has only destroyed their reputation. All inhabitants of Bosnia-Herzegovina must realize that there are more things they have in common that separate them, and that they must learn to respect the other as much as they demand respect for themselves. After all, did not Jesus say "love thy neighbor as thou lovest thyself"? Is it not written in the Holy Qur'an that God "created you into different tribes and nations so that you may get to know each other"? Mankind has much more pressing problems than trying to steal the others' land, possessions and lives. Much better that all people in Bosnia can provide for themselves and their families and to exist in consitions of dignity. Who rejects that, who tried to destroy the country, who has blood on their hands, must be effectively removed from power and banned from participating in the decision-making. And all three communities must recognize the wrongs they did and apologize to each other. And no matter which people will constitute the majority in BiH in the future, no one should be considered a minority. They must be all given equal rights. They are entitled to equal rights. After all, say, if the Bosniaks would, in retaliation for what they suffered in the war start oppressing the non-Muslims, this would be fascism. But of course if this is to work, political parties should be open to all people no matter which their ethnicity or religion, and no longer define themselves as "Bosniak", "Serb" or "Croat". And of course war would be the worst option. Let us not forget that it was not "ethnic hate" nor the "clash of civilizations" nor what the Turks or the Serbs did 65, 100, 200 or 500 years ago what started the war, but greed for power and riches on the part of some very evil people. Who, as you rightly say, are scum. And must be removed from the political scene. To resume war would only bring more bitterness and more destruction. Better if all people would realize that the 'others' are not going away. "You have to shake the hand you can't cut off." Peace be upon you.

At last! At last a voice of common sense! Thank you very much, dear friend! Let's hope we'll all live to see a functional BiH where no one is discriminated against for his or her ethnic or religious background. Yes, all people with good will must do all they can to achieve it, and when they succeed they will do so without being cajoled or driven from the outside. Yes, Bosnia-Herzegovina should become a normal, "boring" country. And all its inhabitants will benefit of it.