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Skopje's main square
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The size and cost of the Alexander the Great statue planned for Skopje’s central square, as well as the lack of transparency on the part of the authorities over its commissioning, has provoked a series of attacks on the proposal.

Art critics, sculptors and architects alike argue that the grandiose monument of the ancient warrior king is too big for its surroundings at 22metres tall, and is more akin to the monoliths previously put up by authoritarian regimes.

“I wonder why a monument of this size? Maybe for the Greeks in Athens to see that we too have an Alexander of our own,” well-known sculptor Blagoja Cuskov told the Utrinski Vesnik daily. 

He argues that such a lavish monument - as tall as an eight-storey building - would overshadow the surrounding city square.

The architect Miroslav Grcev says statues of this size are a characteristic of authoritarian regimes. “Saddam Husein was the last who built a giant monument,” Grcev said. 

He and others have noted that the public does not know how this sculpture and another nine bronze statues, costing a total 10 million euro, were commissioned.

Grcev said that the artist behind the Alexander statue, which will cost 4.5 million euro, is relatively unknown. The public first heard about Valentina Stevanovska last year where she was chosen to make the monument of Alexander’s father, Phillip of Macedon, in one municipality in the outskirts of Skopje. It is not clear how she was chosen or who chose her.

Rumours about the statues have swirled in the past few months. But details of the form, size and commissioning were only released earlier this week after the Dnevnik newspaper published documents it had received about their construction.

Following the publication of the article, the mayor of Skopje's central municipality was forced to disclose details about the statues.

But while he confirmed that the central government will pay for them, the ministry of culture has since remained silent.

The statue of Alexander the Great is scheduled to be erected by the end of next year.

Some commentators say that the sheer number of monuments that are currently being planned, without any prior public debate or quality control, can potentially harm the city's public space.

(Reporting by Sinisa-Jakov Marusic)



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Authoritarian FYROM or Gruevski the Authoritarian Slum
2009-05-07 14:47:06
This is great, FYROMians be proud of erecting a fake Alexandros, or as you call him, Alexandrovski or whatever. I wonder, will you have inscriptions in the slavic language the ancient Greek warrior King spoke, wrote and beleived in? LOLOL, you guys have gone mad. How about you show true respect to the guy and show that you're trying to be Greeks. That's at the core here. You want to be Greeks, but you know you cant, so lets steal a name, history and culture. Add in our modern day Slavic language, change a few names, erect monstrous statues and hopefully this will be the recipe to make the world think we are Greeks. your only fooling yourselves. another 10 million out the drain that could have helped hungry, starving poor people of your pseudo nation. Instead your politicians throw it in your face. Hmm, as the articles states, it does sound like Sadaam Hussein. Good job Gruevski! Keep it going.

It's as big as the propaganda
2009-05-07 15:09:42
There can be only one explaination, it's as big as the propaganda and it has to be bigger than Greece's statues.

Nope, the Greeks of Athens won't even take a glance at you.
2009-05-07 15:12:38
Furthermore, I am afraid that not even the folks in Thessaloniki shall take much notice. You see, while you work in broad daylight and produce a minimum results, the Greeks work underground with ten times your budget and produce a hundred times better results. Honestly, Thessaloniki is talking more of its' new underground railroad (metro) that is being built and when it shall be finished it shall improve the living standards in the city by reducing the volumes of cars around, not to mention the pollution. In the meanwhile the Greeks are chastening you folks for those statues in broad daylight, while they cannot keep laughing at you in the dark and hope for even more statues, even more Alexandreia wine products from Tikves and even more nonsense from the likes of Grucho and his clan. You might have failed to notice yet, but you are just doing what we did at the 1920's: Renaming every place with an ancient Macedonian name. Gradually you might end up speaking a descendant of the Ancient Macedonian dialect as many folks in Greece over a very long period of time that had Metaxas' regime as its' low point. In fact, this is when the plan backfired for the first time since a certain Ierakarios (a name meaning Hawk trainer, a Medieval Eastern Roman title reserved for folks who trained hawks for the emperors joys of hunting) became the first attested Grecoman in the long history of Macedonia... ...Who could guess how many would follow him! But that is the result of too much cohabitaion with Greeks and a certain obsession with their deeds, right Grucho?

Statues
2009-05-07 18:45:02
The architect Miroslav Grcev says statues of this size are a characteristic of authoritarian regimes. “Saddam Husein was the last who built a giant monument,” Grcev said. Balkaninsight The implication here is Gruevski=Sadam.

Gruios the Great
2009-05-07 21:10:03
some folks, not all, to the north of Greece are really, really close to crossing that thin red line whereby the international community -- foremostly media and then academia -- start to ridicule you. That line has not been crossed yet, and I hope it isn't. But if it is, don't be surprised if the small country becomes the butt of jokes. "Antiquisation" has already been coined in FYRoMacedonia itself...

wow
2009-05-07 23:23:29
These people in the former yugoslav republic need to strat worrying about their people and stop making ridiculous claims. worry about getting into nato and the eu and stop the nationalistic behavior. last time i checked ancient macedonia was greek.

Congratulations
2009-05-08 00:15:31
It's about time, that there was a Statue of ALEXANDER IN MACEDONIA. After all, did he not create the MACEDONIAN EMPIRE? I'm disgusted with the comments I read here, but understand that it's only jealousy that drive those statements. Gruevski, keep up the Great work. All Macedonians at heart, agree with you.

Very Nice
2009-05-08 02:20:50
I'm glad the Macedonians are building a big statue of Alexander the Great. The Greeks should also build a big statue in the middle of Athens in honour of the Arvanite who founded the New City.

jealous greeks
2009-05-08 04:42:54
You greeks are just jealous, that ours is bigger than yours. Even Gruevski's is bigger than karamalis's, but i've heard dora's got a big one and would come close to Grujo's, haha hehe! Anyway, get over it and get a greek life (especially you pando), there are more important things in life. Long, Longer, Longest may Macedonia live.

Gruios the Great
2009-05-08 07:41:15
Uncle Dedo - the line was crossed sometime ago witht the renaming of the airport! What is truly amazing is Macedonia has such a rich multi-cultural and multi-ethnic history that should be promoted and celebrated - something truly unique in this part of the World. Unfortunately, Gruevski has chosen to link to a bi-sexual barbarian who ruled for 12 years. Macedonia's infrastructure is falling apart, but the Government chooses to waste money on statues and churches. What I find truly amazing is that anywhere else in the civilized World citizens would be rioting in the streets over such insanity, but in Macedonia the passive, spineless people sit and watch as their Government destroys their nation - and even more amazingly as so stupid to support these activities. The actions of the Government and the support by the people expose the lack of much intelligence amongst the majority of the population. Scary indeed! At this rate the Greeks do not need to worry about the name issue - Macedonia as it exists today will not exist in 10 - 15 years as a nation. It will be split between, Albania, Bulgaria and Serbia - and to be honest it will probably function better under adult leadership from these nations. A sad truth.

@Kiril
2009-05-08 08:58:33
Defense Mechanisms of Ego Compensation - Overachieving in one area to compensate for failures in another. Now you know why the statue of Alexander has to be that big. cheers all from Florina

Regards to all with good intentions!
2009-05-08 14:23:26
I will be glade if there are Statues of Alexander in MACEDONIA and in GREECE also. Unfortunately Athens won’t erect one, or won’t put it on the square? The true conflict is between Athens and Thessaloniki. As I read here (Petre Chouchoulis) the 1500000 transferred from Asia Minor in 1923 (The treaty of Lausanne) will hardly became Greeks, even if they want to! Alexander was great because he united many nations. That is the soul of thru Macedonians!

Wrong priorities
2009-05-08 15:13:53
"You greeks are just jealous, that ours is bigger than yours."... A stupid comment like that was bound to come up... the thing is you just look stupid now with a statue of that size and that's what the world will think. The statement you're making is we're in a propaganda war and trying to win it with "mine's bigger" machoism? What else are people going to think? It's great that Gruev spent millions of dollars (that they won't even say) on a gigantic statue while unemployment in his country is over 30% and the world is in a poor financial state. Short term gain, long term stupidity. Is it supposed to cure clinical depression when you drive past it?


2009-05-08 21:15:47
Gime a break "It's about time, that there was a Statue of ALEXANDER IN MACEDONIA. After all, did he not create the MACEDONIAN EMPIRE?" ------------------------------- ???.. there is a statue of Alexander the Great in Macedonia, long time now. It is also in the capital of Macedonia Thessaloniki. Why one more statue, let alone in a city that is out of Alexander's Macedonia?

Alexander Statue Casts Shadow Over Skopje
2009-05-09 01:01:02
I can't wait for the other European members to even try to explain to Greece's representatives why this country should be part of EU and Nato. This movement away from Slavic heritage will ultimately disintegrate the country on its own accord. Ethnic Albanians will map out autonomous regions in order to receive the benefits of EU and Nato. Republic of North Macedonia would not have been a bad compromise after all. In addition to Antonio Milososki's arrogant words, Macedonia is not North, South, East or West, its Albania.


2009-05-09 02:34:43
It is obvious Gru is trying to compensate for something that may be a bit small by erecting a giant statute in the middle of Skopje...

statues
2009-05-09 16:04:54
The grapes are green! Too bad you Greeks do not have a leader like Grujo whose parents come from Aegean Macedonia, the part still under Greek occupation

Boris
2009-05-09 16:11:58
Erecting an Alex statue in Athens would only join the propaganda that FYROM is involved in. Do you see statues of Pericles in Thessaloniki or Thrace? Do you see statues of Leonidas in Athens? Alexander the Great was born in Pella, Greece and there is also a statue of him in Thessaloniki which Cassandros would be rolling over in his grave over.

Grandiose delusions
2009-05-10 13:42:04
The more grandiose the delusions, the bigger the monuments have to be. Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Mussolini, Kim Il Sung, Saddam...nuff said!

About the statue
2009-05-11 09:12:36
Haha.I am laughing with the Fyromian comments (Greek get jealous,ou statue is bigger than yours!) 1)We didn't decide to built a statue in 2009, there is a statue many years now in Greece. 2) The "Macedonian" leader spread Hellinism.Search a little bit about Ai-Khanoum or ...Alexandria.... HAHA

Bigger is Better
2009-05-15 23:08:59
Doesn't matter how big you build the statue, it will only be noticeable to the FYROMS, but please at least respect his greatness and make sure that the inscriptions are in the language of that which Alexander spoke and that the monument resembles the cultural style of his time ... That being GREEK

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