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Exclusive: KLA Ran Torture Camps in Albania

Kukes, Bajram Curri, Tropoja, Kruma, Prizren, Pristina and Tirana | 09 April 2009 | By Altin Raxhimi, Michael Montgomery and Vladimir Karaj
 
The building that served as a KLA prison at the factory compound in Kukes
The building that served as a KLA prison at the factory compound in Kukes
The Kosovo Liberation Army maintained a network of prisons in their bases in Albania and Kosovo during and after the conflict of 1999, eyewitnesses allege. Only now are the details of what occurred there emerging.

In a run-down industrial compound with shattered windows and peeling plaster in Kukes, Albania, chickens rummage for food and two trucks sit idle in a courtyard surrounded by rusted warehouses and a crumbling two-story supply building.  

In the middle of the compound stands a cinderblock shack that was once the office of a mechanical plant that produced everything from manhole covers to elevator cages.

But, during the NATO bombing of the former Yugoslavia, from March to June 1999, this facility took on another purpose. It was occupied by a guerrilla force, the Kosovo Liberation Army, KLA, as a support base for their operations across the border in Serbian-ruled Kosovo.

But the factory was not merely the headquarters for guerrillas fighting the regime of Slobodan Milosevic to secure the independence of Kosovo from Serbia.

It assumed more sinister purposes: dozens of civilians, mainly Kosovo Albanians suspected of collaboration, but also Serbs and Roma were held captive there, beaten and tortured.  Some were killed, their remains never recovered.  The men who allegedly directed the abuses were officers of the KLA.

At least 25 people were imprisoned in Kukes, witnesses say. Amongst them were three Kosovo Albanian women. In the camp at least 18 people were killed, while others were later rescued by NATO troops.

It appears that Kukes housed one of a number of secret detention centres in Albania and Kosovo, and that prisoners were transferred from one facility to another.

Even after the NATO interventions, a camp was maintained in Baballoq/Babaloc in Kosovo, holding around 30 Serb and Roma prisoners, whose current whereabouts are unknown. Other camps in Albania may have held Serbs kidnapped in Kosovo after the war, according to four sources.

The names of several alleged perpetrators have been known to UNMIK for some time. One of them is still holding a high position in the Kosovo judiciary, Balkan Insight understands.

Bislim Zyrapi, an official of the Kosovo Interior Ministry, who was responsible for KLA operations in Kukes, told Balkan Insight that there were no people killed, either at the base or outside of it.

Two of the KLA’s former top leaders rejected the allegations in separate interviews with the BBC.

Kosovo’s Prime Minister, Hashim Thaci, who was then the political director of the KLA, and Agim Ceku, former Prime Minister and former chief of the KLA headquarters, told the BBC they were not aware of any KLA prisons where captives were abused or where civilians were held.

Thaci said he was aware that individuals had “abused KLA uniforms” after the war, but said the KLA had distanced itself from such acts. He added that such abuse was “minimal”. Ceku said that the KLA fought a “clean war”.

However, Jose Pablo Baraybar, the chief of the Office of Missing Persons and Forensics within UNMIK for five years, says: “There were people that are certainly alive that were in Kukes, in that camp, as prisoners. Those people saw other people there, both Albanians and non-Albanians. There were members of the KLA leadership going through that camp. Many names were mentioned, and I would say that that is an established fact.”

Baraybar tracked missing citizens in Kosovo and across the border in Albania.  

Karin Limdal, spokeswoman for the EU rule of law mission in Kosovo, EULEX, told Balkan Insight that the mission is aware of the allegations concerning the Kukes case, and that prosecutors are looking at the evidence to see if they can bring indictments.

YELLOW MERCEDES OF DEATH  

These grave allegations about the Kukes camp, in the north west of Albania, are based on interviews with several sources: two eyewitnesses – one former inmate and one member of the KLA,  records from a cemetery in Albania and UN documents that we have gained access to, which detail the testimonies of people ill-treated in Kukes.

Together, they paint a portrait of a brutal prison regime that is at odds with the claims of former KLA leaders, who say they adhered to international human rights conventions and never detained civilians.

The abuses in Kukes may not have been isolated events. According to former KLA fighters who talked to us, as well as independent testimony provided to UN investigators, the KLA maintained a loose network of at least six secret jails in the dozen or so bases they operated in Albania and the two they had in Kosovo during and after the 1999 war.  

Those jails were used for interrogations that routinely included torture, according to sources interviewed for this story.

Most former KLA soldiers we interviewed are proud of their war with the Serbian forces, whose bloody actions forced the mass flight of hundreds of thousands of Kosovo Albanians from their homes in 1999.

But some said they felt shamed by what some KLA commanders and leaders had done under the cover of war.

“It didn’t seem strange at the time,” one former KLA soldier, who witnessed the events, said. “But now, looking back, I know that some of the things that were done to innocent civilians were wrong.  But the people who did those things act as if nothing happened, and continue to hurt their own people, Albanians.”

Another eyewitness, a Kosovo Albanian, says he was held at the KLA base in Kukes on the pretext of being a Serbian spy, an allegation he vehemently denies.

This man, who did not wish to be named, described witnessing KLA soldiers abusing and torturing prisoners at the base for weeks, often under the supervision of KLA officers.

“I saw people being beaten, stabbed, hit with batons,” he said. “I saw people left without food for five or six days. I saw coffins being thrown in graves. I’ve seen people killed.”

This man claimed most of the captives held at Kukes were non-combatant civilians, mainly Albanians accused of working for the regime, and some Roma. There were also some KLA soldiers, imprisoned for disciplinary measures.

According to both sources, three prisoners were Kosovo Albanian women. Two were Roma from Prizren. The rest were young Kosovo Albanian males, aged between 20 and 27, all accused of collaborating with Serbian forces. The inmate said he also heard shouts in Serbian from prisoners who were being tortured a short distance away from the compound.

The inmate said that he heard “people crying and yelling at being tortured, and I could specifically distinguish native Serbian being spoken there.”

He said some Kosovo Albanian prisoners were shot or beaten to death on the base, while others were driven off in a yellow Mercedes. One Kosovo Albanian prisoner died in front of him and five other inmates, after being shot in the calf by his interrogators and then left untreated.

The records of the cemetery in Kukes shed light on the man who died after being shot in the calf.

According to cemetery records, he was buried on June 6th 1999, four days before Serbian forces pulled out of Kosovo, in a plot reserved for Kosovo Albanians who died in Albania during the conflict ,.

“Every time I saw the yellow Mercedes, someone was taken in that car and then I would never see that person again,” he said. “They were never found.”

The same former inmate said he believed the people had been taken captive for various reasons, which included revenge and greed, as well as allegations that they were Serbian spies.

One prisoner had worked as a policeman in the western town of Gjakova/Djakovica under the Milosevic regime. He was taken away in the yellow Mercedes and has not been seen since.

Another had been a teacher, whose apparent offence was to have a license to carry a gun issued by the Serbian authorities.

The inmate said he believed that more than 25 people were held there from March to June 1999, from the start of the NATO bombing of the former Yugoslavia until NATO forces moved into Kosovo.  

The inmates were mostly from the city of Prizren and surrounding villages. The KLA had apprehended them after waves of Kosovars entered Kukes during the NATO bombing. At least one was arrested as far away as Durres, or Lushnja, in central Albania, according to both sources.

Our source, who was an inmate, recalls another inmate, a Kosovo Albanian, yelling from the barred windows to the troops in the yard, telling them that if they killed him, he had six brothers who would avenge him. “What would you do about them?” he challenged them.

According to the same two sources, and UNMIK documents from their investigation into the case, some of the survivors were transferred in the aftermath of the war to detention cells at the police station in Prizren, in Kosovo.

On June 18th, they, and other people detained by the KLA in Prizren, were released by German KFOR troops, who stormed the building.

The same sources estimated that as many as 18 captives may have been killed in Kukes.
The source who was a member of the KLA said: “I understand that they had cooperated with the Serbs and had done a lot of harm. This would make people mad when one thinks of the massacres happening across the border. But their treatment was brutal. At times, I was sorry for them.”

The former inmate we spoke to was sceptical about whether any of the captives had actively collaborated with Serbian death squads.

“But even if they deserved punishment, no-one had the right to do that [torture] to someone [else],” he said. “No-one has the right to do such things to other human beings.”


A NETWORK OF CAMPS

Kukes was an important strategic location for the KLA. Weapons, uniforms, cash and fresh recruits all flowed through the warehouses and storage buildings at the site.

The base was also important for the KLA military police, which reportedly rounded up suspects from among the mass of civilians who fled to Albania, or were expelled by Serbian forces.  

A unit of the Albanian army, stationed at the base in Kukes, assisted the KLA to set up its military police operations, according to several policemen we interviewed.

It appears that Kukes was one of many detention centres in Albania and Kosovo, and prisoners would be transferred from one to another.

Two captives were brought to Kukes from a similar KLA facility near the town of Burrel, where the KLA ran a barracks for training soldiers during the last two months of the war,  said the former inmate.

“They told us about people being killed there, people put into lime pits there,” he said. “I could also see what was going on in Burrel from the state [in which] they were brought in... They’d been tortured badly.”

According to the UN documents, the interviews with KLA members and the inmate, other captives were transferred to Kukes from KLA facilities in at least two other places - Durres, and after the war, Prizren in Kosovo itself.

The KLA had intelligence units and military police in most bases they maintained in Albania.

Halil Katana, a military journalist from Tirana, in his authorised biography of Kudusi Lama, the commander of the Kukes division, ‘Kudusi Lama: War General’, writes: “Those units [of the KLA military police] played an important role in establishing the discipline in KLA groups trained in the Kukes area, and in seizing Serb agents who entered the country amongst refugees from Kosovo.”

These units maintained detainment cells in Babine, a logistics centre near the border region of Tropoja; in the training camp of Burrel and at a KLA base in Durres, according to our third source, another member of the KLA.

Bislim Zyrapi, currently an official at the Interior Ministry of Kosovo, was responsible for the KLA operations at the base in Kukes from early May to the end of the NATO bombing of the former Yugoslavia on June 10th.

He says that the people detained at the jail in Kukes were soldiers with disciplinary problems, and that there were no people killed at the base, or outside of it. But he added that he found the KLA in disarray, with armed soldiers and individuals who wandered freely in town and elsewhere in Albania. “One of the first things I had to do was to discipline them,” he said.

PERPETRATORS AT LARGE

According to eyewitnesses, two Albanian citizens involved with the KLA took part in these interrogations.

One man, described as having long black hair, was especially brutal to the Roma from Prizren, according to one source.

One source said KLA fighters coming back from fighting in Kosovo sometimes took out their rage on the inmates.

The other said the prisoners were tortured into admitting they had cooperated with the Serbian state security forces, UDBA. The interrogators wanted to record the prisoners confessing collaboration with the Serbs.

The same sources that witnessed the base in Kukes, told us that the interrogators in Kukes were KLA officers who had been involved in the capture of suspected collaborators.
Both our sources concerning the base, identified several KLA officers involved in the abuses at Kukes.

One of them is currently in a top position in the judicial system in Kosovo.

We have withheld names of the alleged perpetrators, so as not to endanger our sources.

Some men involved in the abuses at Kukes were also involved in abducting Kosovo citizens after the war, according to former KLA soldiers we interviewed.  

Their targets were not Albanian ‘traitors’, but Serbs or Roma who had remained in Kosovo after NATO troops entered the territory.

One Kosovo Albanian who returned to fight in Kosovo after spending many years abroad, told us he saw nearly 30 Serbs and Roma held in a KLA camp in Baballoq/Babaloc, near Decan in western Kosovo, after the war, in summer 1999.

He said he heard screams from the location and assumed the inmates were being tortured.  When NATO patrols passed through the area, the prisoners were hidden in a workhouse, the same source added.

This former KLA fighter said he suspects the group was taken over the border to Albania and killed. “I never saw them again, never read anything about them in the newspaper,” he said.  “So they probably disappeared into the mountains.”




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Altin Raxhimi is a freelance journalist based in Tirana. Michael Montgomery is a special correspondent for the Center for Investigative Reporting in Berkeley, California. Vladimir Karaj is a reporter with ‘Korrieri’, a Tirana daily.

The research for this story was funded by the Alumni fund for the Balkan Fellowship for Journalism Excellence. Part of the funding was provided by SCOOP, a structure of the Danish Association for Investigative Journalism that helps fund investigative journalism in Eastern Europe.

© The full text of this article is the copyright of the Balkan Investigative Journalism Network, BIRN, and its authors.  No part of this article may be reproduced in any form without the express permission of BIRN.  Requests for syndication should be directed to ana@birn.eu.com



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Comments:
Thank you
2009-04-09 13:04:18
Great job. I can only imagine what effort it took to get all information and talk to all those involved. Many thanks to Altin Raxhimi, Michael Montgomery and Vladimir Karaj for helping to find out the truth, as victims of these crimes and especially their families deserve that.


2009-04-09 13:05:54
Why not call them concentration camps to get even more attention?? Horrible yes, but 25 people over 3-4 months hardly qualifies as a "torture camp."

The Truth
2009-04-09 13:11:16
Well, well, well... How's about that? Revelation of the Truth is slow and painful process, but in the end the Truth will come out in full. Unfortunately, I suspect Albanian posters will not tackle this issue, but will immediately shift their comments onto something completely different such as Milosevic or "Serbian genocide". That will only prove they are not ready to handle and accept the Truth.


2009-04-09 16:01:18
"Horrible yes, but 25 people over 3-4 months hardly qualifies as a "torture camp."" Why not?

:D
2009-04-09 16:22:06
And Albanians???? What you will say then? Albanians was only victims of Serbian terror? haaahaaahaaa. Support for creation of pseudo-state, formed through terrorists expressly testifies to intentions of the USA and NATO. They did not attack Serbia, to help poor Albanians which are oppressed, but was attack against Russia. They supported in 1999 terrorists (according to US Departament of State list of terrorist organizations).

Sigh of relief
2009-04-09 16:35:18
So Albanians committed crimes. Thank you, what a relief. I was started to feel horrible that the crimes where committed by only one side. As we know this should not be possible based on the laws of political correctness. Now if we can only find a couple of Jews killing some innocent Germans during WWII. Wouldn't that be gold?

They are trying to put blame on victims
2009-04-09 16:58:54
Through this articles Serbian goverment are trying to put blame on UQK-a.they want to hide their genocide on Kosovar people which was lasting with decades.Starting in LAst centyry.Are they forget Boletini family masacred for one day in amrch 1921, twenty nine unocent members of this family and amny of them coming to family Jashari fourty two memebrs mascared in 1998.Hundred and thousends expeleld in Turkey.Serbs they don't see good is judging them, look on them on teh end they will loose all serbia maybe they will remain only on "Beogradski pasaluk". They shold look for forhgivnees to Albanians and to good what they did in Balkans.

To Alban
2009-04-09 17:53:16
I am rather dismayed at your response Alban. To those 25 people who, God knows what they went through, this was certanly 'a torture camp'. Who are you to minimalise the suffering of that lot of people? How arogant!Be thankful that you or someone close to you did not go through such thing.

KLA had no time to deal with torture of civilians
2009-04-09 18:53:16
... I'm confused with this article, and I wonder have this is "discovered", since there is where KLA officers resquing their people and fighting to brake the border they had no time to deal with torture of civilians. Of course I understand that at any war collaborationists where tortured to get infromation but not civilians. I was in Kukes with organisation Humans for Humans, I met lot of KLA soldier, but they where helping their people that where deployed from serbian forces. I think that this article is vilification and is same as prosecutor Del Ponte did in her book.


2009-04-09 19:04:37
this is not at any circumstance comparable with any torture that serbia did to albanians at milosevic regime (ja se izvinjavam)

A foot note in history.
2009-04-09 19:58:58
This is a non story which will be surely forgotten by summer. Unless Balkan insight which in my view is so one sided (as it pertains to reporting facts and news), maintains its on going demonization of the indegenous Albanians of the Balkans.


2009-04-09 20:06:07
Nice to hear that Mr Thaci states the KLA "fought a clean war" - what is a clean war? Just to kill? Very nice to reject to know about such torture and then just call it done? 25 tortured people is nothing - uhhh, what kind of arrogance and ignorance is shown here again. What I don't like I just have to deny and 25 is really nothing on the way to become a democracy... Go on please with revealing the truth.

So much for suing Serbia
2009-04-09 21:51:54
The only thing this proves is that the Albanians retaliated at the oppression of the Serbian forces. Let's not forget that this war started by Serbia backing Milosevic's drive to remove Kosovo's autonomy. However, this pretty much makes it impossible to sue Serbia in the future. Oh well, Croatia and Bosnia didn't win that lawsuit, no way Kosovo would.


2009-04-09 23:17:00
thank God the truth is starting to finally come out.The problem with the lies the west spreading is that the truth cannot stay hidden forever.This story is huge was even on BBC and you Know how much they like the Serbs.

Not in our names
2009-04-10 00:29:11
Until all sides stop to separate innocent victims into 'ours' and 'theirs' and make up insane conspiracy theories, instead of dealing with the cold ugly truth, there will be no peace or progress in the region. I am a Kosovar Albanian, and I cannot decide if I am more disgusted by these crimes or the hypocritical reaction of some of my compatriots. Killing, maiming, or torturing a defenceless human being is always wrong, regardless of your ethnicity. As much as I respect the KLA as a resistance force against the Serbian opressive regime, I have only one thing to say to those who run in defence of the thugs who committed these crimes: Not in my f***ing name! There should be a thorough and sincere investigation into these alleged crimes led by an independent body and the Kosovar gov't should fully support it. This is the least we can do to


2009-04-10 01:19:59
Many of the prisoners were ethnic Albanians - and it includes women - and this was just one of many camps the KLA/UCK ran over Albania and Kosovo. And the article also claims there were 18 deaths out of this particular camp of 25 - showing a high mortality. The total of deaths probably equals the number missing, which is over 2,000. "At least 25 people were imprisoned in Kukes, witnesses say. Amongst them were three Kosovo Albanian women. In the camp at least 18 people were killed..."

'KLA torture camps'
2009-04-10 01:37:06
Any loss of life is sad and regretably many lives were lost during the Kosovo war, the vast majority being ethnic Albanians. Some were lost after the war, many being Serbs. But the above article does not analyse the aftermath of this terrible war, perhaps psycology can. The title is illusory, there is no evidence to back it up, just speculations initiated by the Serbian prosecution office, who also claim that the Kosovo 'State' is being "funded" by its 'drug trafficking', their imagination carries on but sadly only makes you laugh. This is just a 'case' that has never made it to the International Court Tribunal. Lets not divert from the accusations being publicised above, I am certain that some horrible things have happened, caused by some elements in the KLA army but as Mr Thaci confirmed they were 'minimal' and certanly not being directed by KLA. I really hope the 'truth' comes out and those involved be brought to justice so that the families of the victims can move on with their lives. As per the Serbian prosecution, they have no RIGHT to ask anything until the Serbian state apologises for its well documented attrocities to all its neighbours, surrender its hidden war criminals, recognises Kosova's independence and then reconciliation can begin between the two ethnicities.

Torture camps
2009-04-10 01:39:17
I am really amazed that Albanians here can still say that this is somehow Serbian propaganda or a way to sway away from Albanian victims. Fistly, this was reported in the UK by the British, so how on earth can this be the work of a Serb? Second, we have been hearing about Albanian victims for a decade now. Albanians victims have been remembered and Albanians have been pushed as the only victims. Now that we want to talk about Serbian victims, Albanians get angry. What about us? Hey, we have heard it all before, over and over and over. Now we want to hear about the others. And for others who somehow excuse this as defending Kosovo from Serbian aggression I say, do you think that innocent Serbian women, children etc deserve to be tortured for ANY reason? What! They deserved their fate because they are Serbs? You have no humanity in you at all if you say that.

the truth
2009-04-10 02:47:54
As an albanian from Kosova, I feel bad for those civilian serbs that were tortured or killed as an act of revenge. I understand people used to be very frustrated then with what serbian army was doing. However, I dont share any sympathy for albanian traitors who collaborated with serbian forces to harm and kill their own people. Traitors are traitors anywhere in the world including Kosova.

Justice for everyone
2009-04-10 04:24:24
THANKS GOD FOR SOME TRUTH. European Union should investigate this matter further and bring those people responsible to justice. I honestly think that some of people responsible for these atrocities are in the KOSOVAS government, and sadly those people are allowed to run a county.

Justice for everyone
2009-04-10 04:26:24
THANKS GOD FOR SOME TRUTH. European Union should investigate this matter further and bring those people responsible to justice. I honestly think that some of people responsible for these atrocities are in the KOSOVAS government, and sadly those people are allowed to run a county.

KLA death camps
2009-04-10 10:09:07
Before any of you Albanian supporters start you usual this is Serbian propaganda, just remember that this was not broadcast by Serbs but by your pals the Brits. Are you going to accuse them of Milosevic propaganda as well? Also, for you who say that Serbs have started this whole mess I ask, Are you saying that these victims deserved this sort of treatment? These were innocent civilians and you can stand here and say that they deserved what they got because Serbs attacked you!! Listen to yourselves. Rron, as much as I disagree with your point of view about how noble KLA fight was I agree that it doesn't matter who the victims are these sorts of crimes must be punished severely. I am all for punishing Serbian criminals as much as the Albanian. If we were to agree that we have opposing points of view regarding our political goals but agree that all criminals must be punished, we have a basis of sorting out some of the mess created.

My respect...
2009-04-10 10:56:31
From a journalistic standpoint congratulations to the journalists involved and BIRN generally for this scoop and collaboration with the BBC on this story. From a Kosovo Albanian (democratic) standpoint this is a very welcome story, as it draws attention to the fact that the current leaders in Kosovo have a shady past. Perhaps its time to hold these men to a higher standard and to encourage a new post war political class to come forward to replace the current former warlord crop of polticians? In the short term though, stories like this will have a dividing effect among Kosovo Albanians. But the truth must come out. A people cannot hold onto victim status forever. From a Serbian perspective two points. Some Serbs might do a dance reading this, hoping that this proves that Albanians were as bad as Serbs (or worse), but this isn't the real issue. I believe stories like this have a moderating effect on Serbian politics and will encourage further efforts to build bridges or uncover Serbian crimes. From a personal viewpoint we all knew / suspected that this went on, but until now nobody had written this story or paid much attention to it. I urge further stories like this to be written. There is also an underlying message of some type of advocacy journalism going on here for sure. But it will eventually help contribute to making a more peaceful and developed society.


2009-04-10 11:30:28
We already knew there were KLA torturing camps for Serbs, now whole world will know it and I hope it will be fully investigated. It's time for missing Serbs to be found, they can't be missing forever.

Not in my name, either!
2009-04-10 16:21:38
I am a Serb from Serbia and it is so refreshing to read Rron's posting here. I feel exactly the same way when Serb nationalists start justifying and excusing Serbian attrocities. Not in my name, either! We are human beings first, and only then Albanians, Serbs, whatever. Yes, we do have bitter disputes and we will continue to have them, but we can deal with them like civilized human beings, not like animals and war criminals. If there were more people like Rron in the Balkans, who put humanity before the cult of the Nation, the Balkans would be a much better place to live in. For all.


2009-04-10 18:15:53
"It's time for missing Serbs to be found, they can't be missing forever." I hope the same goes for the missing 2000 Albanians. My guess: Most are dead, some have immigrated, some have no relatives to declare them 'found,' some raped women never wish to be found and so on.


2009-04-10 19:14:10
This is an amazing and courageous piece of work. Kudos to all the journalists involved.

to Alban
2009-04-10 20:43:54
"for the missing 2000 Albanians" 2000 missing Albanians. I remember NATO propaganda from 1999 - they said about "new holocaust" in Kosovo, about "100 thousands killed". The best was US Departament of State - 500 thousands killed Albanians (HALF MILION!!). :D Becouse this "hundreds thousands" victims NATO attack Serbia and USA and EU create Kosovo protectorate state. And today? How many Albanians was killed by Serbs? How many Serbs and Albanians was killed by UCK? How many Serbs and Albanians was killed by NATO??

It's about time
2009-04-10 22:36:23
I am truly sadend for both my people "Albanian" and the Serb people. If this story holds true then I truly whish that these animals who ever they might be are prosocuted to the fullest extent. It's shames me to think that such a disgusting act of barbarizum towrds any human could happen and if these so called Albanians who perpertrated these acts in retaliation thinks they did it in our name you are saddly mistaken! You are not Albanian nor are the Serbs who thought it right for there actions doring the war are Serbian. Yes I like having open arguments as peggy and the rest of us who to enjoy it but this is truly a sad day. We are all human and proud of who we are an that's what make us great. I'm pritty sure if we were to all go out togeter it would probubly be the best time any of us would ever have. So to my Serbian friends and my Albanian brothers I think we should all have a moment of silence for all who had to go through what was a sad era for all of us in the Balkans. I think it is time for us to realize we are all in the same, we are BALKANIANS. We truly are a special people. Proud and love to bicker but together there is no one bigger, the Balkanians are truly the top dog when it's time to fight and when it's time to party and now it's just time to reflect and to know that the things that happend in the past shoud never happen again. An the next time the word shot is yelled out it will be me puring raki for all of us......

None of us in here are ambassadors
2009-04-10 23:04:35
I am absolutely disgusted by this act. It will be a shame if it doesn't get the full attention it deserves - to be investigated by both EULEX and the Albanian government. I, personally, have lived through the war in Kosova, and many a times, as most of you who comment here know for yourselves, I came very close to being killed. I saw my beloved hometown of Gj_____ burned to the ground and many friends, neighbors, and family members killed. The brutality of what Albanians had to endure under the then-Serb government before and during the war is unspeakable. But, please, let me assure you, that there are a great many of us who do believe in justice, regardless of nationality. Let me assure all you readers that there are a great many Albanians in Kosova who will not rally behind these barbarians in of these prison camps. My sense of statehood comes from a sense of justice. Whoever strips me of that justice strips me of statehood. Albanians in Kosova, excluding some opportunists who sit in the government today, and I'm sure many others whom I don't know, associate statehood with justice. I can guarantee you that, at least among the youth and intellectuals, there is no such nationalist sentiment as it is being unfolded elsewhere in the Balkans. I can assure that a great many of us will not call somebody who we hate (whoever that might be) derogatory names of our neighbors, as do others in the Balkans, whenever they want to belittle and be-devil someone, they call them "shiptari." May nationalism and everything of it rot in hell if it means the death of civilians. I cannot tell you how great many of times I wanted to see the entire Serbia engulfed in flames of hell, as its citizens stood by and allowed criminals to do those brutal acts they did throughout the region. The same goes to all of those within the KLA ranks who are nothing but murderous barbarians, who only want to wet their hands in blood, and they could care less on whose ranks they fight as long as they can satisfy their vampiric greed. As an Albanian who has suffered a great many tragedies from childhood in Kosova, all the way to the end of my teenage years, I want to see a full investigation of these incidents by all the authorities in charge, and see those behind these acts, whoever they might be, pay for it. Please, to all of you readers, do not attempt to politicize this issue with "they did this, they did that." It is bad enough from politicians who do it. But, please just think for a second if any of you were to have been in that scenario in those camps, and after you have put a good, long thought to it, tell me what does it mean to be patriotic and what price are you willing to pay for it?

trying to make a big news... thats all.
2009-04-11 15:10:25
It is so sad to see BalkanInsight report such story that has no base on reality. There were thousands upon thousands of albanians who were arrested, tortured, killed in unimaginable ways and if comparing to this story, this story would not even have place to fit in in a newspaper worth 10000 pages. Every albanian living in Kosova during the war was effected during the war. There was not one location in Kosova where crimes did not happen during the serb brutal occupation of Kosova. Even the international Court described that some crimes that the serbs did were comparable to the crimes of the middle ages. The only reason why these journalists wrote this article is to try to make a spectacular news and make them as important journalists...thats all.

Rron, Djordje
2009-04-12 23:23:39
it feels good to know that there are people who think like you. If only there were more people around who put humanity before nationalism. I do not believe in revenge. It is outright criminal to hold the grandsons to account for the crimes of their elders. Now the Chetniks did just that in Bosnia-Herzegovina. They said that all they did to the Bosniaks was just a little payback for the Turks, the Usrtase, Jasenovac etc. (just to illustrate my point: there ARE differences after all between what the Serb side did and what the others did.) But I'm not calling for revenge here. It will not bring the dead back. Now, somebody like Ismet Bajramovic "Celo", or those who tortured Savo Heleta and his family even though they had not supported the Chetniks certainly did their own people a disservice, but we must keep this in proportion. These were isolated acts of revenge which had no official backing. Nevertheless their perpetrators must be brought to justice as much as the Serb war criminals, who were ordered from above to show no mercy to the Bosniaks and the Kosovars. But this here, must be thoroughly investigated. Who was behind that? Without a doubt there were criminal elements who took advantage of the situation. I concur with those who demand justice to be done. But on the geopolitical situation there can be no concessions. Except those which are worked out by common accord.

leu3mi - Prizren
2009-04-13 10:15:36
"War is war and I hope it never comes back again..." Very true. I agree. "...nobody is winner all are losers in it ..." Not true at all. Albanians are winners. Serbs are losers.(for now) "...so please let justice be upon... ". Would like very much, but I doubt there will be justice for Serbs. Nevertheless, let's try to give justice a chance. Let's start by sharing those "lots of information" you have on the case.

to NYC
2009-04-13 13:33:48
Leek - when Serbian army attacked Your town? In 1996, 1997 or mayby 1998? From 1996 UCK started terrorist campaign (first five bomb attack on 11th february 1996 was against CIVILIANS - Serbian refugees from Krajina, two months later they murdered 8 policeman). In 1997,1998,1999 situation was worst and worst - was more and more terrorist attacks. What do You think - would serbian army attack Your town if not violence started by terrorist campaign of UCK?

To Milan
2009-04-13 23:34:52
All I can tell you, my Balkan brother from the other side, is check out the time-table of what and when and where, if you don't know. I'm not here to lecture those that don't know, and particularly those that refuse to know and refuse to recognize. Read my posting in its entirety and don't tear it apart. I don't understand how can people like you, be it Serb or Albanian, expect anything positive happening in the Balkans with "who start it what" kind of attitude? Do I really have to tell you what was being a Kosovar Albanian during Milosevic and his fellow pathological criminals like? Sincerely you don't know? Is there really actually someone in any of the corners of the world that doesn't know? What I can say to people like Milan and Albanians alike, is stop polarizing over here. My posting, to its outmost, denounced what is claimed to have happened in those camps, and here I am having to defend a non-essential part of my posting because some Milan "does not know" what happened a few years ago..... You see, there is a reason why Balkans is the way it is. There is simply a lot of people who thrive in violence and dispute in the Balkans, and I really hope that soon their influence, that of the rotten apple among healthy apples, dies down, otherwise I sincerely don't to see any hope for the region, other than building walls around the border. But, then, even if that were to happen, as both Serbs and Albanians have demonstrated, we will just turn to our own and chew one another up? I hope not...

comment
2009-04-14 12:01:51
No, NYC believe it or not, not many Serbs understand what it was like to be an ordinary Albanian living in Kosovo in the 90's. I remember an Albanian friend of mine telling me how he was living under a practical state of emergency with helicopters swooping overhead. I knew things were bad but it did not occur to me how every aspect of life was affected in Kosovo, whether you were Serb or Albanian. All the best

to NYC
2009-04-14 13:30:51
"Do I really have to tell you what was being a Kosovar Albanian during Milosevic and his fellow pathological criminals like? " hmmm... I'm not Milosevic supporter. But You speak only about Milosevic. "Milosevic criminal, Milosevic blahblahbla", like any mantra. And what before Milosevic time? My far cousine was wounded by Albanian rioters in Pristina in early 80-s. He must must escaped Kosovo becouse was oppresed by Albanians. Years before Milosevic era.

war crimes
2009-04-14 13:47:25
war crimes

to bganon...
2009-04-14 15:19:57
Right before I finished my 4th grade, my dad promised that if the report comes back with all A's he was going to buy me a BMX bicycle. I did pass with all A's, and on his way back from a business trip in Slovenia, he brought me my red BMX. If you remember, BMX's were (I'm sure there still are) very sportive with bear minimum, namely, they didn't have fenders, lights etc. Well, I cannot begin to tell you how many times, as a 11, 12, 13 year old I was stopped by the police, even in the middle of the day, and I was ordered to take the caps off of the tires and hand them to the police, because I was riding without front and rear light. Once, during the summer, with my friends we went to the river Drin, about 12 k from my hometown, and right before we reached our destination, the police stopped us, gave us each a slap, and ordered the caps off. We had to walk back about 10 k home. This was being done to kids, because things that happen to me in my teenage years, things that I saw happen to my dad, and my friends and relatives, and many, many others, I just cannot begin to tell you because: A) I will get myself quite upset (those are experiences a normal human being carries forever), and B) I will be accused of lying. How can one toy with another's wounds? That is really beyond me. To mock people after what they endured it truly is a form of follow-up, psychological torture. With all my heart I firmly believe that those acts done to Kosovar Albanians don't represent the entire Serb population, but when ordinary Serb citizens refuse to even give it a chance and cast some doubt in what their government was doing and what it was claiming to do, well then we hit a very difficult spot. That kind of behavior polarizes people, makes us hate one another, not because of our bad actions, but simply because of who we are. And I can tell you, as you very well know, none of us choses to be born neither Albanian nor Serb. It is our lot to be born one or the other, but what it is in our hands is not to belittle and to make the other's life miserable and unbearable. I began posting here with the intention of showing sympathy for the alleged victims in those camps in Albania, despite my very bitter past with the Serbs, with one idea in my head and heart that there is nothing more important to me than when civilians pay - on either side. But here I am so far away from my original trail.... A pity...

Thank you for the Truth
2009-04-17 01:45:48
Thank you for the Truth

THE TRUTH!
2009-04-24 22:23:13
Everyone knows what happens in a war. Desperate people will commit desperate acts I do believe (because it has happened in every war) that crimes have been committed on both sides. But it is not possible to compare the crimes committed by the Serbian army police and paramilitaries to those done by groups of fighters loosely grouped under UCK. What came out of the proceedings in the Hague tribunal was that UCK did not have a chain of command and leadership. Their actions resembled those of civilians that tried to fight without having proper military training and organization. On the other hand we had a state that used its police and armed forces to kill civilians. Read this article published today: 4 Serbs found guilty of Kosovo massacre By DUSAN STOJANOVIC, Associated Press Writer Dusan Stojanovic, Associated Press Writer – Thu Apr 23, 12:10 pm ET BELGRADE, Serbia – A war crimes court on Thursday found four Serbian former policemen guilty of the massacre of 48 Kosovo Albanians and sentenced them to up to 20 years in prison. The Serbian court's judges said the victims of the worst single massacre of civilians during the 1998-99 Kosovo war included 14 children, two infants, a pregnant woman and a 100-year-old woman. After a three-year trial, two of the men were sentenced to a maximum of 20 years in jail, one to 15 years and another to 13 years. All the defendants had denied the charges. Three other men also charged with the killings were found not guilty. In Serbia, the very fact that the trial was held marked a shift in public policy, as Serbs who fought separatist ethnic Albanians in Kosovo are still revered by many here as war heroes. The Serb war crimes prosecutors, however, said they would appeal the verdicts, especially because the prime suspect — the commander of the special police unit that carried out the massacre — was acquitted Thursday. "We cannot be satisfied with the verdict," said Bruno Vekaric, the spokesman for the prosecution. "Justice has not been carried out." The verdict said the defendants rounded up members of one Kosovo Albanian family in their village of Suva Reka in March 1999, killing several men with machine-gun fire before forcing the rest into a pizza restaurant and throwing hand-grenades at them. Those showing any signs of life were shot in the head and the bodies were transported to a mass grave in Kosovo, where they were initially dumped. One woman lived to tell the story as she played dead before jumping from a truck packed with corpses. The victims were later reburied in mass graves near a high security police facility outside Belgrade, the Serbian capital, as former President Slobodan Milosevic apparently tried to hide atrocities committed by his troops in Kosovo. Autopsies showed the victims were executed. Pressure from human rights groups prompted Belgrade to launch an investigation to determine who was to blame for the Suva Reka massacre. More than 100 witnesses, including Kosovo Albanians, were questioned during the trial. War crimes trials became possible in Serbia after Milosevic was ousted in 2000. The ex-president died in 2006 while on trial for genocide at a U.N. war crimes court in The Hague, Netherlands. Kosovo declared independence last year, something Serbia refuses to recognize. Kosovo's government welcomed the verdict, but urged Serbia's authorities to pursue justice in other cases of crimes committed against ethnic Albanians during the Kosovo war. "We welcome every court and justice decision that will shed light to the atrocities committed in Kosovo during the war," said Memli Krasniqi, spokesman for Kosovo's government. "Nevertheless, we feel that this should not cease with one case. We believe that justice need to be done in more than a dozen other cases that remain."

The truth is...
2009-04-27 18:21:14
...there is no "clean war". Thanks to all involved journalists for finding evidence!

Serbs are innocent
2009-06-25 05:18:05
I've lived in Kosovo for 3 yeras, and i know ther eare many great people Serbian and Albanian living there who were just cought up in the mess and never supported UCK or Serbian Army. Thanks for this article, there are plenty of other evidance to show UCK army for what they trully are the brutal saveges while Serbian army was sent to Kosovo only to protect Serbian civilians from everyday attacks that they were enduring while in Kosovo, attacks on their churches, homes, shcools and a Serb couln't even walk safe down the street without being affraid of being kidnapped or killed by UCK. Milosevic had every right to send Serbian troops to protect its people. There is no evidance to show Serbian troops commiting genocide whatsover, just accusations by Albanians who want to pin another war crime on Serbs and gain even more sympathy and support from the other nations. Hague has done nothing to bring justice to Serbian victims, there are two sides to every story remember that.

KOSOVO AND METOHIJA IS SERBIA
2009-06-30 01:30:20
NO ALBANIAN TERRORISTS ! KOSOVO AND METOHIJA IS SERBIA !

Proof!!
2009-09-26 16:52:29
The funny thing about all this is that they never mention any names of peoe who went missing. I'm sure there were war crimes done on Serbians, but not on a mass scal like on the Albanians

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