Distressed Bosnians Suggest Donkey for Mayor

The official name of my country is Bosnia and Herzegovina. Mostar isn't Bosnian city and never was.I found as necessary to say that many international sources avoid use therm Herzegovina and I don't undestand why. Therefore let me correct you Mostar is Bosnia and Herzegovina's ciy (BIH's) or Hrezegovina's city.Hope you learn something!Thanks

Exactly, Goran, Mostar is in Hercegovina, not Bosnia, and is not a "southern Bosnian city", as this article inaccurately states... Articles frequently make this error, because I believe it's part of a Muslim, and international, agenda against Croats, in particular, to desperately try and make Bosnia and Hercegovina, and the people who live there, appear more unified than they are, especially Croats and Muslims, forced into a single entity... They definitely aren't unified, as this article about the extreme difficulty in appointing a mayor in Mostar proves... My entire Croatian family history originates in Hercegovina, not Bosnia, although Bosnia-Hercegovina is acceptable, of course...

Anita what a hypocrite you are. Didn't your fellow Croats enter this unholy alliance willingly? What scream about it now? What international agenda against Croats. Didn't Clinton mastermind Operation Storm for you to go against the Serbs. Seems to me international agenda was firmly on your side during that war. You made your bed back in the 90s, now live with it.

The Kingdom of Bosnia included the Duchy of Hum (Herzegovina) and so did the Ottoman Sandzak of Bosnia: So Bosnia-Herzegovina IS Bosnia and Bosnia is Bosnia-Herzegovina. But it resuklts tiresome to type it out every time. So it's perfectly acceptable to abbreviate it. But then, it would be niceto have Bosnia-Herzegovina unified. If only because then, on most maps the name would fit. And I find it incredible how much childish, stupid visceral hate, scorn, blind rage, spite and contempt paired with supine ignorance and general lack of respect for other peoples and faiths the comments of some people who post here contain. If they said things half as bad on the street about the Jews as whatthey say aboutthe Bosnian Muslims here, they would be thrown in jail. The Bosnian Croats joined into the Federation becuse they HAD to. They had no other alternative, for the Bosnian Muslims inflicted a total miltary defeat on them. It was either that or forget Bosnia-herzegovina. And in Eastern Bosnia, the cooperation of Croats and Bosniaks functioned smoothly all the time. so there you Serbianist!

Peggy, I'm not a hypocrite, because I never supported an "unholy alliance" with Muslims, either during the war, or after it... I only supported an alliance with Croatia... Obviously a majority of Croats in Bosnia-Hercegovina never supported an alliance with Muslims either, because the entity that was created for them has never had majority support from Croats... Croats in Bosnia-Hercegovina have been proven time and time again that they were correct to not support an alliance with Muslims, and only with Croatia, considering the way they have suffered, in alliance with Muslims, since the war ended, something that would not happen in alliance with Croatia... The US, in particular, forced Croatia to cease supporting Croat forces fighting Muslims in Bosnia-Hercegovina, under threat of possible economic sanctions, and increasing international isolation, and also offered Croatia incentives to do so... Croats in general don't willingly put up with a situation where they have less rights than other people in the same country, and "live with it", no matter how hard any OHR in Bosnia-Hercegovina tries to force them to do so... Operation Storm was a Croatian military masterpiece, executed brilliantly by Croats, and it's only jealous people who try and diminish Croat achievements such as this, by claiming others helped, but Croat blood won the war, and these people can never diminish that... Antifascist, it seems to me "antifascist" is a euphemism historically used by communists to try and disguise what they really are, to try and make their ideology more acceptable... I'm not surprised someone with the name "Antifascist" seems to have a problem with people expressing thoughts and opinions that don't accord with their own... It's not what people think and say you should worry about, but what they actually do, and whether it infringes on the human rights of others... People can think and say anything they want about Croats, but as long as they don't then hurt them, it doesn't really bother me... I'm sure you think it's a good thing that people can go to jail in some countries for expressing opinions you don't like... A comment like, "the Bosnian Muslims inflicted a total miltary defeat on them", is nothing more than a Muslim invention, after the war, to try and justify the poor treatment of Croats in Bosnia-Hercegovina... I already explained earlier why Croats ended up in an alliance with Muslims, but I'll also suggest you follow a timeline of the war in Bosnia-Hercegovina, because then you might realise if not for Croat forces in Bosnia-Hercegovina, the entire country would have been overrun by Serbs... Also, when you disarm a population, you get the sort of situation Bosnia-Hercegovina was in during the 90's, with an unarmed majority at the mercy of an armed minority, something the UN approved, by opposing people arming themselves, so the "unarmed" have hopefully realised they should not fall victim to this sort of situation ever again...

So you take me for a communist; this only shows you know nothing about me. Yes, I think it's good that those who express fascist thoughts can be sent to jail for it: Specifically I was referring to Germany, where denial of the Holocaust is a criminal offense. And no, I don't think that the Bosniaks are necessarily enemies of all Bosnian Croats. Only of those who attacked them. As long as the Bosnian Croats do not attack the Bosniaks or their historical and cultural heritage I too have no problem with them. Indeed, I would see those as friends who say "All right, the Bosniaks exist". As far as I know, in the war the Bosniaks did not destroy any Catholic churches (but the "HVO" destroyed many mosques and the Stari Most, and that is an act of such barbarity that I can never forgive them that, not if I live to be 300). And then the speeches that some clerics or ordinary people make about Muslims and Islam. It's like listening to the Spanish inquisition. Utterly revolting!Well, let me tell you, I have to apologize to NO ONE for being what I am! And I have absolutely NO sympathy for those who would want to ghettoize or exterminate the Bosniaks, and try to sell this as "war oin terrorism"! For those, even death would be too good!

Yes, I too hope the Bosniaks have realized they must do all to make sure that they never get into the same situation again. And also that they are accorded by the non-Muslim inhabitants of Bosnia-Herzegovina the same repect that these people expect for themselves. Of course this means that they too must respect the non-Muslims. But if the Bosniaks are not accorded that respect then they will not have to respect the non-Muslims either. Neither side has exactly played a great part in this whole bloody mess. The Bosniaks , even seeing what was happening in Croatia at that time, failed to prepare themselves for war in time. Then Tudjman and Milosevic in Karadjordjevo divided Bosnia-Herzegovina between them... "and for the Bosniaks nothing!" but then the Bosniaks were not so easily defeated. And they will not be. In the end it is the Serbs' fault. They managed to divide the Bosniaks from the Croats. All that patter of centuries old etnic hate is nothing but an propaganda lie to justify the genocide, expulsion and ghettoization of the Bosniaks. All right, Operation Storm was decisive for the liberation of Croatia, and it did help the Bosniaks liberate themselves, by binding Sewrb forces. But at Sanksi Most, Bosanska Krupa, Tuzla, Gorazde, they did it all by themselves. And becausew the Serbs had gathered the greater part of their forces to commit the massacre of Srebrenica, so then at Bihac the Bosniaks could break through the Serb front. So nobody should think that the Bosniaks are indebted to anyone. And yes, Islamophobia IS Fascism! so now you all know why I call myself Antifascist!

Considering Islam arrived in Bosnia-Hercegovina, centuries ago, as a consequence of Muslim Turkish military assaults on Europe (assaults which had devastating consequences to many Christians in Europe), many of the descendents of those who remained non-Muslim would find it very difficult to "respect" the descendents of those who embraced Islam... That, of course, doesn't mean they should be forced out of Europe, and I accept they're a part of it now, but tolerance, rather than "respect", is at least a minimum people should expect from others... Also, traditional Catholic teaching doesn't really allow for the "respect" of other "religions", since it is Catholic doctrine that outside the Catholic Church there is absolutely no salvation... Catholic Popes have referred to Islam as "the abominable sect of Mahomet", and "the diabolical sect of the reprobate and faithless Mahomet"... This might help explain that what you call "Islamophobia" amongst Catholic Croats, is, in fact, traditional Catholic teaching... I'm sure it also won't surprise you that I believe Stari Most should never have been built in the first place, let alone rebuilt, since it was commissioned to be built by Muslim invaders of Bosnia-Hercegovina... I don't care how architecturally great it's considered, since it was built on the back of injustice... However, that doesn't mean I support it being blown up, just that my attitude to it being blown up is different to yours, because I'm not a Muslim, and my perspective is different... Post-war Bosnia-Hercegovina was built on the back of injustice, and, like everything unjust, it's not sustainable, unless it's sustained by force, as the continuing presence, 14 years after the war ended, of the OHR in Bosnia-Hercegovina proves... The OHR has proven this many times by its actions, over the years, especially against Croats, and a few examples are forcibly removing elected political representatives, forcibly changing electoral laws to try and engineer an outcome it would never otherwise get, forcibly seizing private property, and destroying private businesses... As long as the three constituent nations that constitute the country don't have the same rights as each other, and some continue to have more than others, Croats are utterly justified in pursuing their own entity to get the same rights... It should be the same rights for every constituent nation, and no entities, or three entities, so all constituent nations have the same rights... I'll just finish by saying I don't agree, under any circumstances, that people should be threatened with jail just because of what they think and say, irrespective of how 'controversial' it may be to others...

Let me put you right: What you say about traditional Catholic teaching may have been true in the times of the Spanish Inquisistion. Pope Benedict XVI would today not talk like that. Islamopohobia is not traditinal catholic teaching, its fascism. Unfortunately, even Muslims can succumb to fascism: the Talibans' kind of Stone Age Islamism, Bin Laden's blind and visceral hate, Khomeini's Islamic Bolshevism, Bashir's genocidal Janjaweed which I would call the Islamic Chetniks. I hate these as much as all fascists. But as for the destruction of Stari Most you can't just say "I have a differet opinion" What different opinion? This is something one can only be against of for it, and its recionstruction is also something one can only approve or disapprowe. And who is against its existence is in my eyes as barbarian as the Taliban who destroyed the Buddhas of Bamiyan. On what "injustice" was Stari Most built? It was not built by Christian slaves. And no, no Franciscan monks were ever thrown off it. That is also a propaganda lie, I have seen a picture of this, and I wish I could force the perpetrators of this propaganda lie to scratch it off that wall with their bare fingernails! So you approve of its destruction, then I do hope we never actually meet face to face. And yes, fascism is a crime, niot an opinion, and anybody who denies, belittles or justifies the genocide against the Bosniaks should be sent to jail for at least five years! That's what you can get in Germany if you deny, relativise or justify the Holocaust, or are a member of a Nazi group! And if the different OHR have removed Fascists from the political scene then they have done right! Or don't you think they banned Muslim extremists too?? Yes, all should have equal rights in Bosnia: but as individuals, not as parts of a collective. Get rid of these old communist ideas of collectives. All honest, law-abiding persons in BiH must have the right to live in freedom and dignity, and all those who would commit genocide in order to carve out a ministate of their own must be rendered harmless, by all and any means. And all those who despise Bosnia-Herzegovina are free to go, and in fact that's what they are doing already.

Anita, it is very rotten to say "The Turks, centuries ago came and committed atrocities, and therefore today's Bosnian Christians have the right to avenge themselves on the Bosniaks." This is evil and rotten because with that, murder, robbery and destruction of cultural property can be justified. And what will happen when next time around the descendants of today's Bosniaks say "We can do all that and worse to the Christians because way back then in 1992-95 they tried to extermnate us". What you quote about the "Sect of Mahomet" is from Cardinal Cisneros, who was instrumental in the genocide against the Spanish Muslims in 1492 and who even led several military expeditions to North Africa because in his blind hate Spain was not enough for him. But it is hardly the position of the Catholic Church of today. And what you say of the destruction of Stari Most is beyond good and evil. One can only be for or against such an act. And who is for it, and aginst its reconstruction is a barbarian as great as the Taliban who destroyed the Buddhas of Bamiyan, and a very immature and foolish person too; and since you espouse such medievalist views I will too: these guys should be drawn and quartered, but since we don't live in the Middle Ages I will be content if they are locked up in jail forever, and thie personal fortunes taken away from them to pay for this reconstruction. And I would advise their relatives to leave the country-very fast, and never come back. ANd whoever publicly proclaims fascist ideas, like "We are superior, and the others are infrahuman and should be thrown out or killed, and we can keep their belongings", "there was no genocide" , "all sides are equally guilty" etc. etc. etc. should be thrown in jail, because Fascism is not an opinion, it's a crime, and who expresses fascist thoughts in public is a criminal. Who pursues fascist policies like thwe expulsion or resettlement of entinre populations is downright dangerous and must be rendered harmless by all and any means. Those who say "government of one people, for one people and by one people" may think they quote Abraham Lincoln , but actually they talk like the Ku Klux Klan! Yes, every individual in Bosnia-Herzegiovina is, as in all the world, entitled to equal rights. But those who would be the master race and kill or expel the others have forfeited their rights forever. And the Bosniaks have NEVER wanted to make of Bosnia-Herzegovina an Islamic republic only for Muslims. Who say that only parrots Dodik's evil propaganda