‘Three Years’ for Macedonia Court Ruling

Anyone with more than one braincell should now realize that Gruevski and his merry men and women in the government have no interest in solving this issue and moving the country towards the EU. It's about wasting time to enable all of their friends and relatives to make their personal fortunes, like the previous SDSM criminals. Very sad situation for Macedonia. By the time the issue is solved their won't be any brain power left in the country as all the best and brightest people are leaving. Oh well, perhaps the Albanians will do a better job of getting the country into the EU when they finally exceed 50% of the population. I'm afraid Macedonia's chance of become a European nation soon is running out.

Macedonia, must put a stop to name negotiations with Greece.No State has the right to object ones country name,ethnicity,culture and religion.There are many toponims in the world with same names.I wont list them,but Greece is the only State that it opposes the name Macedonia,and for good reason.They fail to recognize the Macedonian minority within Greece by claiming that there are no minorities in Greece.Let me remind you that in Greece there are over 1.7 million Albanians,ocer a 1 million Macedonians,Turks,Roma and Vlahs.Greece claimes that there are 422 Greeks in the Republic of Macedonia who are residing in Krushevo.Those Greece knows anything of history? In 1903 Macedonia established the first Macedonian Republic with over 700 fighters who gave their lives fighting againts the Ottomans?Yes, there are Macedonians from Northern Greece (Macedonia) in the Republic of Macedonia who are bared to enter their homeland in Greece.There are more than 28 thousand children refugee from Northern Greece (Macedonia) who are not allowed to enter Greece,because they are Macedonian.Greece can turn blue,will not change the truth.The Vlahs of Krushevo are jes as Macedonian as any citizen of this State.Why is Greece not recognizing the Vlahs in Greece?!

How can Greece recognice a 'Macedonian' Minority when 'Macedonians' are a majority in Northern Greece??????? Macedonians exist in Greece and they identify as Greeks they also exceed the number of FYR-macedonians in FYROM. FYR-MACEDONIA should give back the name it stole from Greece and appologise. just like it did with its flag :) THIEVES! PS. There is a better chance that Greece recongnises a small Bulgarian minority in northern Greece. Because that is what the people of FYROM are. WHY ARE THEY EMBARRASED OF THEIR PAST??

simple solution is always best

"No State has the right to object ones country name,ethnicity,culture and religion" Meaning you would have no problem if Kossovo renamed itself "tetovo"? BTW, check what happened after WWI when Austria wanted to call itself "German republic of Austria". Or tell the US that it's fine if Stalin had renamed Siberia "SSR of Alaska". "Greece is the only State that it opposes the name Macedonia" of course. Britain would be the only country to oppose a name "Republic of the Falklands" for a breakaway argeninian republic too, the US would be the only one to oppose a Republic of Alaska and you would be the only one to oppose a republic of Tetovo. "They fail to recognize the Macedonian minority within Greece" You mean the 2,5 million real macedonians who want nothing to do with your state or the 1000 votes(in alliance with anarchists) that your Rainbow coalition gets in real Macedonia? "claiming that there are no minorities in Greece" who exactly claims that? Only your "ministry of truth" "in Greece there are over 1.7 million Albanians" legal and illegal immigrants, NOT citizens. So if you travel to work in Germany, do you form part of a "Macedonian minority " there? "ocer a 1 million Macedonians" nope, the numbert of real Macedonians is more like 2,5 millions. The number of phony macedonians is less than 1000 BY ELECTION RESULTS. The "swedish, US, German, Brazilian " and so on minorites are larger than that. "Turks" -you mau wish to compare how they are treated compared to how the greek minority in Turkey has been treated. "Roma and Vlahs". Don't you think it's their right to identify themselves? Who says these people do not identify themselves like the rest of greeks? "1903 Macedonia established the first Macedonian Republic" It was called Krushevo rep, not Macedonian(those people were Bulgarian at the time). So what does this have to do with oppressing those you call "Grekomans"(as if theior ethnicity was some kind of mania)? "Yes, there are Macedonians from Northern Greece (Macedonia) in the Republic of Macedonia who are bared to enter their homeland in Greece" If they love and miss their homeland that much, who prevented them from going back there and why did they leave in the firts place? "There are more than 28 thousand children refugee from Northern Greece (Macedonia) who are not allowed to enter Greece,because they are Macedonian" The UN resolutions at the time call these 28000 children ABDUCTED. You cannot tailor history as it suits you. "Why is Greece not recognizing the Vlahs in Greece" Maybe because they do not want any special status? But of course you know best what they really are

Some facts for your information. Muslim minority in Greece (Turks, Pomaks, Roma): 120.000. Slav - Macedonian minority as expressed in recent elections: 6300 votes for Vinozito(Rainbow)party. As for Krushevo you may google "Alexandros Svolos" a famous professor of Constitutional law in University of Athens,leader of Greek Left resistance during WWII and proud Greek Vlach from this great city.You will be very surprised.

I say, stop the negotiations immediately and continue on with an offensive political campaign. Rally the right for us Macedonian's, regardless of our geographical location, to be recognised as Macedonian's. Albania have done it, Serbia have, and its now Greece's turn. Who knows what you'll find when you open the "Pandora" box!

Peter, Thanks for the statistics and the lack of evidence to support those numbers. Since Greece and the rest of the world no nothing of history thank God we have you to enlighten us. As far as the paidomazoma, Greek communists along with their collaborators kidnapped Greek children and sent them behind the iron curtain. I hate to break it to you but they were sent across the Balkans. Try reading the UN resolutions passed in the late 1940's or Queen Frederica's plea. Here is an article from Time magazine for some leisure reading. I am sure I can already guess what your response will be. http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,811653-1,00.html Greeks due refer to Vlachs as Ellino-Vlachi. I know plenty of them. Whether they are recognized as a minority in Greece I do not know. If they are not, please support your argument because I would like to know.

Don't people need to ask to be recognized as a minority for the state to recognize them? Do Vlachs want to be recognized as a minority?

Scott, Good point!!!

Guys, why do you have to keep arguing about the name issue? The final decisions will be imposed on us in due time whether we like it or not.In the mean time both countries' governments as well as the EU are clearly not interested in resolving the issue but this has nothing to do with history any more.What's the point of going on with fighting over this? European citizen

How exactly will the final solutions be imposed? By war?

In light of the recent findings by the Swiss institute IGENEA that 30% of Macedonians in the Republic of Macedonia are descendants of the ancient Macedonians, compared to only 5% in Greece, I offer this apology to Macedonians for forcing them to change their surnames, refusing to implement in primary school the Macedonian ABECEDAR that Greece agreed to implement under the League of Nations treaty, imprisoning people of they spoke the Macedonian language and denying their right to culural association. I wish the Greek King Georgios I had not pronounced the Decree of Occupation after 52% of Macedonian soil was ceded to Greece following the 1912 Balkan Wars. If I were alive today, I would hang my head in shame for usurping the history and denying the culture of the Macedonian people, the most persecuted peoples in the Balkans. I now realise that the Megali Idea which sought to expand Greece's territory NOrth into Macedonia and later well into Smyrna Turkey, was a folly thanks to Attaturk's brave soldiers. Coupled with restrictions on use of language and cutural association, and the mass re-settlement of Greeks into Occupied Macedonia had a profoud distortive effect on the population mix there, verging on genocide.

Sanity Yes, it will be imposed by war, of the economic variety. We (the Greek Government) imposed a crippling economic embargo on Macedonia a few years ago to treach it some sense and force it to change its constitution and national symbols. And thank fully they did. we can do more of the same. I will give you an example.. Macedonia's flag after independence was of the 16 point star of Vergina, clearly a Greek symbol. Thankfully the Macedonians changed the flag to the original Macedonian symbol which has only 8 points, like the one found on 3000 year old objects in Kratovo (Macedonia) and on Alexander's tomb in Egypt. So Macedonia can now retain its 8 point star, and Greece can keep as Greek the 16 point star found on King Philip's tomb. I know it is silly, but we Greeks know ancient history much better, because our scholars have said so, and no-one is going to steal it from us. No doubt in time Macedonians will find other defining differences which we will then force on them so they can be closer to their original roots, and we Greeks to ours. Igenea's DNA reasearch that 30% Macedonians in Republic of Macedonia are descended from ancient Macedonians is one such example. We, proud Greeks and protectors of ancient history on the Balkans, the source of civilisation and humanity will find a way to turn this into an integral part of Greek mythology. While Sarkzy and the rest of Europe watch from the sidelines, Greece will work very hard to force Macedonians to relinquish even this part of factual evidence as to who they are. Only then will Europe and the world be a better place.

because Macedonians(at least from a greek perspective) referrs to the greek Macedonians, not FYROM! So do not use "we" to impersonate others