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| 05 November 2008 |
 
Macedonians watch Obama's victory speech at an event in Skopje
Macedonians watch Obama's victory speech at an event in Skopje
Skopje_ Macedonian officials have welcomed Barack Obama’s victory in the US Presidential election saying they do not expect a shift in Washington’s policy in the ‘name’ row with Greece.

The speaker of Macedonia’s parliament Trajko Veljanovski said that the fact the first African-American was voted into the position of Commander-in-Chief shows that in developed countries nothing should present an obstacle to the presidency.

Veljanovski spoke in the early hours of Wednesday at a US embassy event in Skopje that gathered numerous officials and diplomats. Veljanovski added that he hoped these “historic” elections will not cause a major shift in United States foreign policy towards Macedonia.

“This US election sends a clear message that they have overcome all racial, religious and ethnic prejudices. That is a great message to all multi-ethnic countries and the democratic world showing that it is values that matter, instead of which community one belongs to,” said Rafiz Aliti from the Democratic Union for Integration, the ethnic Albanian partner in the government.

The European Union’s ambassador in Skopje, Erwan Fouere said these elections “are a very strong demonstration of the great power of American democracy.”

Meanwhile Silvana Boneva, a lawmaker from the ruling VMRO-DPMNE party said she expects that “the US policy for the Balkans will remain the same.”

“The US has invested a lot in the stability of the region and I am convinced that we will see a continuity of that policy,” she said.

The US ambassador to Macedonia Philip Reeker reiterated that “the US and Macedonia have strong ties and as I have said many times before Macedonia does not have a better friend than the US and that will continue to be the case.”

Vlado Buckovski, a former Macedonia Prime Minister and opposition lawmaker said Obama’s victory would bring major changes to the region as well as elsewhere.

However there was scepticism too.

Macedonians viewed the US election mainly through the prism of the ongoing dispute with neighbouring Greece over their country’s name.

Greece has blocked Macedonia’s bid to join NATO and threatens to do the same at the EU if Skopje does not stop using the name ‘Republic of Macedonia.’ Athens argues Skopje’s use of the name implies it territorial claims to the Greek province of the same name.

Macedonians had largely sided with Obama’s Republican rival John McCain fearing that Obama will shift Washington’s policy against Macedonia because he has signed a US non-binding resolution on the name issue which was pro-Greek.

However, while some Macedonians were worried about the effect Obama`s administration will have on the name row, others welcomed the move.

“It is great that he won and I hope he will manage to change the world,” says middle-aged hairdresser, Milka Dimitrovska Vlaisavljevic.



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2008-11-05 23:26:34
no more george bush to propagate the rubbish coming out of skopje. a new hope for reason in the balkans with obama.

Obama
2008-11-06 00:29:13
Obama bought Greek votes with cheap, uninformed anti-Macedonian rhetoric. As President he will realise that the USA's interests in the region are best served by supporting a stable and united REPUBLIC OF MACEDONIA. And as real politik dictates , this is precisely what he will do.


2008-11-06 11:02:12
Ahm, I think Obama couldn't care less about FYROM/Macedonian - Greek name dispute. Or Serbia, or Bosnia..or anything in Balkans. He'll support Kosovo project only.

To Louis
2008-11-06 11:08:06
Are you sure? http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/3113/45/

homepage
2008-11-06 14:24:36
'Ahm, I think Obama couldn't care less about FYROM/Macedonian - Greek name dispute. Or Serbia, or Bosnia..or anything in Balkans.' A sensible comment. I would hazard a guess that what Obama would dearly love is to have the sum total of nothing to do with the region. He is stuck with Kosovo, but outside of that I imagine he will happily let anyone not the US federal government take the load/flack.

Obama
2008-11-06 16:14:07
No more Grujo,Milo wine and dine invitations at Republican party gathering of the coalition of the willing. Onr positive policy coming out of Obama's circle is the future closure of Bondsteel military base.

Timmy
2008-11-07 01:16:25
Yes. So what backing do you have for your "informed" view?


2008-11-07 12:13:47
Obviously Homepage must be British...what do u think Dara

Vaggeli
2008-11-08 00:51:46
'what do u think Dara' I try my best not to.


2008-11-08 14:51:20
I have the sense that you all have too great expectations from Obama.....but he is only a man, figure, the US machine is too big to be changed over night. The strategic interests of US are not to be changed over night....everything else was just a pre-election rhetoric. As for Greece - US, the anti Americanizam manifested so clearly in Greek media (and not only) in resent years has it price that must be paid (gonna be reflected in the relations Athens - Washington). Not only the Americans, but all over the world people are realizing how stupid and paranoid is the position of The Democratic Republik of Greece Former Hellada (or whatever.....)


2008-11-09 16:52:38
It is very interesting how this forum works. I've been following this site for a long time, and noticed that under any news related to the Republic of Macedonia there are lots of Greek comments, very insulting at times, and there are very few responds allowed by the moderator. The people who want to be heard and tell the other side (than Greek) are not been allowed to do so (at least not at this site). I'm not the only one who complained about this issue. If this is the way that Balkaninsight is approaching a democratic forum with the right of free expression of opinion than.......?????? And message to the Greek readers, comment whatever you want but try not to insult anybody.....you know what I'm talking about.........

To Louis
2008-11-09 21:10:58
The backing of my "informed" view is the World Macedonian Congress.

US Sen. Resolution 300
2008-11-09 21:27:22
Chada, I would give a read to US Senate Resolution 300, one of the its three authors is a certain Mr. Obama.

Ringo
2008-11-10 00:38:41
Ringo - you may want to be a little more careful about throwing that about. That resolution does not demand that any particular name is used, it demands steps to a mutual agreement. It certainly does not say that Greece can monopolise the word 'Macedonia.' More than that, it also specifically demands adherence to the Interim Agreement, under which Greece should not veto NATO membership under the name 'FYROM.' My reading of that is that neither side complies in full with the letter or spirit of that (non-binding) resolution. Unless you think that the IA doesn't apply to Greece or it's OK for Greece to make agreements in bad faith. Admittedly that is a (another) Bakoyannis falsehood rather than a Greek one per se. That woman is the biggest hypocrite in Europe. I would guess that Obama wants a quick solution, on any terms, because the quicker all issues are solved, the quicker the US reduces its interest in the Balkan region. I honestly doubt Obama cares about the rights and wrongs. If I were him I would probably think on much the same lines. The really interesting point with Obama and the Balkans will come over Kosovo, not Macedonia. I can't find the reference now, but I am pretty sure that there is a Senate resolution calling on countries around the world to recognise Kosovo. Bet you the Greek public won't be rushing to follow that sense of the Senate. Obama's interest in SR 300 was that he was chair of a Senate sub-committee on European Affairs. As far as I am aware he has never raised any objection to Kosovo independence in his committee role. That said, I remember a few months ago there were some reports that said Richard Holbrooke was a potential Obama Secretary of State. I can't myself see it, but that would rattle a few regional cages!

Timmy
2008-11-10 05:56:00
The article about the WMC advising Macedonians in the US to vote for McCain is by no means an indication of what Obama will do. Drawing a long bow there Tim. Obama has played the Greeks in the US like a Stradavarius. He co-sponsored a couple of non-binding Senate resolutions drafted by Pan-Makedoniki, garnered your votes and then plans to continue on with the Bush Administration's policy of promoting stability in the Balkans by recognising the Republic of Macedonia by its one and only name.

Obama
2008-11-10 12:10:28
Admittedly that is a (another) Bakoyannis falsehood rather than a Greek one per se. That woman is the biggest hypocrite in Europe. Dara The biggest hypocrits are Grujo& Milo that supported Bush & the Republicans for the last eight years.Now all of a sudden the're so happy to see Obama in the White House. Also UN resolution 1242 stipulates the territorial integrity of Serbia.If Obama sticks by his pre-election promises of the primacy of the UN, then Kosovo's UDI is null and void.

TO DARA
2008-11-10 13:59:50
CONTRARY TO YOUR MIDSUMMER NIGHT DREAMS REPUBLIC OF NORTH MACEDONIA IS CURRENTLY THE ONLY OPTION ON THE TABLE FOR ALL INTERNATIONAL USES WITH THE SAME CITIZENSHIP DESCRIPTION IN THE PASSPORTS. FURTHERMORE, THE WHOLE WORLD WILL EVENTUALLY FIND OUT THAT NORTH MAKEDONIYA AND ITS MAKEDONSKI HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH MACEDONIA AND MACEDONIANS IN GREECE. TILT-GAME OVER ! BESIDES, IF YOU WERE A SENSIBLE OUT OF THE BALKANS SUPERPOWER WHO WOULD YOU PREFER AS ALLIES-HALF A MILLION MAKEDONSKI OR 20 MILLION MACEDONIANS AND GREEKS ALL OVER THE WORLD?


2008-11-11 04:04:38
Its been interesting reading all the postings above, however we should not overlook some obvious facts on this matter. 1: The FYROMians clearly sided with McCain during the US election, while the Greeks threw their lot with Obama. 2: Some FYROMians in this room seem to want to downplay the US Senate Resolution 300 but deep down - like Gruevski & Co - they know exactly what this resolution means for FYROM now that Obama has become President-elect. Apart from the directive that FYROM stop the propaganda against Greece, one of the key requests of this resolution is that Ms Rice(Secretary of State) rescinds US recognition of FYROM as 'Macedonia', and reverts back to using FYROM until a mutailly a greed name is found, before she leaves office. If she fails to do so, the senators have indicated they will do so when she leaves. 3: I suspect that in the coming weeks we will witness a reverting to FYROM from the US. This then begs the question - how many more countries that followed the initial US recognition will now follow the US again and rescind their own recognition? I suspect Mexico, Panama & Congo read the coming change, and got in ahead of the others...


2008-11-11 06:30:18
That resolution does not demand that any particular name is used, it demands steps to a mutual agreement. It certainly does not say that Greece can monopolise the word 'Macedonia.' Nor Dara does it say that Gru Gru and Trotsky can do the same...correct? Therefore why there objections to Nimitz final plan. Why the need for a guarantee of ethnic identity, if one is so sure that they are the direct descendants of Phillip of Macedon, Alexander and even Goce Delchev?...hmmm

OBAMA
2008-11-12 04:23:17
This will be one positive change Obama can make. Making sure Skopje stops their indentity theft of Hellenic culture. Obama could easily point out to the world all of Skopje's atrocities in teh past with their alliances with Hitler in WW2 and their Stalinist past which involved the sickening behaviour of abducting children as Harry Truman pointed out repeatedly in the UN.

Dara
2008-11-12 05:58:42
"It certainly does not say that Greece can monopolise the word 'Macedonia.'" Dara, you know better than to make a statement like that. It is not Greece but FYROM that wants to monopolize the name. FYROM/Northern Macedonia is composed of peoples of Slavic background[Serbian , Bulgarian etc.], Albanian, Roma , Greek, etc. etc. Whether you like it or not there is, also, a Greek Macedonia in addition to the Vardar and Pirin Macedonias. Therefore, the only sensible solution has to be one that will make that distinction VERY CLEAR. FYROM's so-called "constitutional name" is implying falsely the existence of only one [Slavic ]Macedonia. This will NEVER be allowed to happen!

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