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Republika Srpska: After Independence

| 19 November 2009 | By Matthew Parish
 
Bosnia’s gradual disintegration would appear inevitable. The only question is how the international community will, and should, react to this process.

A new state – “Republika Srpska” - is shortly to be born in South Eastern Europe, the eighth to emerge from the Yugoslav wars of the 1990s. The delivery of this troubling new child will be neither easy nor straightforward.

People may die, and diplomatic isolation may follow. The choices the international community makes in the aftermath of these events will be critically important to the welfare of all the people of the region. For Western policymakers it will be a matter of choosing the lesser evil.

Ever since the 1995 peace agreement at Dayton divided the country into two highly autonomous “entities”, it was manifest, even from its name, that the Republika Srpska had pretensions towards statehood. But after the atrocities committed by Serb forces in the Bosnian war, the West viewed the creation of Republika Srpska as a necessary evil at best, a “genocidal creation” in the words of the current Bosniak President, Haris Silajdzic, to be eventually dismantled. This goal, once achieved, would compensate the Bosniaks for the collective guilt the international community felt for having failed to intervene earlier during the conflict.

To pursue this objective, the High Representative was invested with broad and unchecked legal authorities to dismiss elected officials, impose legislation, and freeze parties’ bank accounts. Although the constitution agreed at Dayton limited central government authorities to a paltry catalogue, by 2006 the number of functions performed by the state were significant, including prosecution of war crimes and financial crime, foreign affairs, indirect taxation, central banking, and EU negotiations. These structures were created by threatening Bosnian Serb politicians, sullied by associations with wartime crimes, with a one-way ticket to the International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia, ICTY, if they refused to cooperate. The new central institutions were funded from outside Bosnia’s bankrupt domestic economy through foreign aid.

But then two things changed. Most fundamentally, everyone who could be deported to The Hague had been, and the wartime Bosnian Serb political party, the Serb Democratic Party, SDS, had been emasculated through the measures taken by successive High Representatives.

This led to the rise of Milorad Dodik, a different brand of Bosnian Serb politician, untainted by participation in the war. His new party, the Alliance of Independent Social Democrats, SNSD, could not be bullied by High Representatives’ threats, as his officials had no wartime record to hold against them.

Second, international interest in Bosnia faded, and the high levels of development funds needed to keep state institutions operating dried up. The Bosnian tax system, chronically inefficient and corrupt, was increasingly relied upon to fund the central state. These two factors, combined with a withdrawal of foreign peacekeeping troops, coalesced just as Milorad Dodik became Prime Minister of Republika Srpska in January 2006.

Dodik shares many of the qualities of Russia’s Vladimir Putin. Tough, shrewd, uninterested in democracy, and determined to elevate his nation’s status after a decade of weakness, he is a formidable opponent for the weak and ineffective international figures remaining in Bosnia. Uncontaminated by the Republika Srpska’s wartime past, and buoyed by international criticism of the heavy-handed tactics previously employed by Bosnia’s international governors, he is invulnerable to the High representatives’ traditional methods.

He has taken to embarrassing the High Representative by frustrating his every endeavour. The High Representative can do little to constrain him. He has no money to withhold – Republika Srpska now receives investment from Eastern Europe and Russia – and no troops to send; international peacekeepers remain in only negligible numbers. When the High Representative’s office tried to pin corruption charges on Dodik, he shut down the State Court. He then shut down the state electricity company. When the international community tried to impose a centralised police management on the country, Dodik frustrated it. When the High Representative tried to change voting in the State Council of Ministers, Dodik had the State Prime Minister, a Serb, resign, throwing the central government into paralysis.

In theory, the High Representative can dismiss Dodik. But the High Representative’s notional authority is now bereft of might because there is no way of enforcing it. There are no foreign troops to evict Dodik from office.

The State Police are small in number and ethnically divided and no match for Dodik’s RS Police. Bosnia has no army of substance. The RS controls its own tax revenues and can financially withdraw from the rest of the country without significant sanction.

Dodik’s agenda in the short term is to detach the Republika Srpska from dependence upon the central state institutions. This will be straightforward to achieve, because central government and indeed the Dayton Constitution incorporate “consociationalist” principles whereby decisions can only be taken by consensus of all three of the country’s ethnic groups. Provided he can continue to control most Serb officials, Dodik can block every decision of substance. The writ of the State Police and the State Court already runs weakly in Republika Srpska, which has its own police, courts, tax system, national flag and legal regime.

The only significant institutions it shares with the rest of the country are a currency, a vehicle licence plate regime, a common system of VAT and excise collection, border controls and the State Court. These will all be easy to dismantle. The euro could be formally adopted overnight. The central state account for indirect taxes is situated in Banja Luka and it would be no hard task to divert all indirect tax revenues received from RS territory into an exclusive RS account. In any event the RS finance minister can veto all decisions of the state indirect taxation authority, rendering it effortless to destroy the system from within.

The theoretically unified State Border Service is almost exclusively manned by Serb officials where Bosnia’s borders fall within RS territory. On the RS’s frontiers with Serbia, borders are almost invisible.

The State Court was once a force to be reckoned with, but since 2003 it has been reliant upon international judges and prosecutors and funded by foreign donors. Such an arrangement was never sustainable; and the Court’s international officials are now fleeing in light of Serb politicians’ threats to block their reappointment. The courts of the RS are loyal to Dodik, and will not faithfully apply state laws against RS interests.

Dodik’s motivations in pursuing a detachment agenda are plain. Whereas politics in the Federation are divided between warring politicians from two ethnic groups, five major political parties and ten cantons, politics in the RS is remarkably unitary. Everything is managed within one political party, and, ultimately, by one man.

Compellingly, detachment from the rest of Bosnia is what the overwhelming majority of Bosnia’s Serbs want.
They share a collective paranoia about cultural and political dominance by a Bosniak majority. Fears of dominance and persecution have driven politics in the Western Balkans for centuries, and nothing has happened in the past fourteen years since the end of Bosnia’s war to extinguish them.

The only force preventing the RS’s detachment since 1995 has been the Office of the High Representative, issuing centralizing decrees backed by military force and diplomatic pressure. But since 2006, as the peacekeeping troops have departed and international interest in the region has waned, the High Representative’s powers have faded. Dodik has publicly pronounced on several occasions that he considers the actions of the High Representative illegal and will ignore them.

The current High Representative, Austria’s Valentin Inzko, dares not attempt to dismiss Dodik by decree lest Dodik makes good on his threat to march 50,000 Serb demonstrators to Sarajevo. Moreover a change of leader in the RS would make things worse, not better.

It is often forgotten that by Bosnian Serb standards, Dodik is a moderate. It may be tough for international community negotiators to accept but Dodik represents the most liberal wing of mainstream Bosnian Serb political thinking. Any replacement might be far more extreme, seeking independence within a more truncated timescale, or being more prone to creating inter-ethnic provocations that may precipitate violent clashes.

Dodik’s plan for the RS is incremental. Independence will be pursued piecemeal, as one tie to the central state after another is sequentially cut. By the time the RS is de facto independent, already not far off, the international community will barely have noticed.

As with the case of Montenegro, by the time the formal declaration of independence is made the event will be a fait accompli.
It might once have been possible to strike a grand bargain between Bosnia’s three ethnic groups: Bosniaks would accept a loose confederation structure in exchange for Serb and Croat relinquishment of separatist aspirations. Alas, the prospects for this moderately optimistic scenario have all but evaporated, due in large measure to clumsy interference by OHR. For example, a domestic political procedure known as the “Prud Agreement” was an initially promising series of meetings between the Bosniak, Croat and Serb leaders of Bosnia’s three principal parties that mapped out a structure for the country’s constitutional future after the OHR’s departure. Ultimately, however, the OHR-sponsored criminal investigation into Dodik’s finances disrupted this initiative.

If therefore the independence of Republika Srpska looks increasingly inevitable, what should the international community do when it happens?

Bosniak politicians and the OHR will urge the High Representative to dismiss Dodik, “annul” independence, and perhaps rewrite the Bosnian constitution to abolish the Republika Srpska or eradicate the consociational voting system that allows Serbs and Croats to veto state-level initiatives. Such a radical course – tearing up the entire post-war constitutional structure – is tempting, but exceptionally dangerous.

If such radical measures were applied only after independence (or a referendum on independence) had been declared, they would be too late. Dodik would either ignore them or use them as a pretext to accelerate his agenda. They could be enforced only by armed intervention in the RS, and occupation by foreign troops; but the necessary soldiers are neither available nor are their political masters willing to commit them in an era in which foreign military adventurism has a bad name.

To stand any hope of success without massive military commitment, High Representative imposition would have to occur before the momentum for independence is irreversible. It would have to take place tomorrow. But at this time there is no international consensus about the desirability of actions of this enormity. It would have to be a US initiative; the EU would almost certainly not support such a measure, considering proconsular constitutional restructuring incompatible with its regional programme.

Moreover, it is almost certainly too late. The time unilaterally to rewrite Bosnia’s constitution was in 1999, when the RS was at its weakest and foreign troops were still present in significant numbers. But to act then would have made Bosnia an internationally administered colony indefinitely, a responsibility which nobody wanted to undertake, which is why it was not done. The contemporary situation is quite different. If it were possible for the High Representative to dismiss Dodik, it would have happened in the last two years. The OHR is now too weak and the RS too strong to expect such dramatic orders to be enforced. Ultimately, they would destroy what is left of the international community’s credibility in the country, because they would not be obeyed.

In that scenario – a hastened declaration of RS independence triggered by dramatic OHR action – Bosniaks, in the name of defending the Constitution and the authority of the High Representative, might take up arms. The flashpoint would be Brcko, the free city formerly administered by the US government but which has since been abandoned, having not a single US citizen (beyond a couple of Bosnian-American dual nationals) now residing there.

The greatest single impediment to RS independence is geography: its extended territory is difficult to defend and Brcko is its weakest point. Bosniaks might reclaim the officially neutral territory using military force, seeking to cut the RS in two. The international community could then send a small military force into Brcko, ostensibly to stabilize inter-ethnic conflict but in fact to give themselves bargaining power with Dodik through military division of his territory.

If Croatia’s support could be garnered, the borders with the western RS could be closed, encircling the RS capital Banja Luka with hostile neighbours. But this strategy would be exceptionally risky. What would be the exit strategy for the foreign troops? How would they avoid being drawn into sporadic acts of violence?

The gravest danger in this scenario would be the reactions of Bosnia’s neighbours. Serbia might supply material aid to Bosnia’s Serbs. Irregular militias might cross the border from Serbia to the RS as happened in the 1992-95 war. Croatia might refuse to cooperate, due to the likely reaction of Bosnia’s Croats. They have their own separatist aspirations. The fact that the entire region’s stability is at stake if a clumsy approach is taken to the RS’s separatist ambitions is why nothing has been done, and why Dodik remains in office under the international community’s sufferance.

This impotence may be unfortunate, but the international community must reckon with its own lack of power if it is to make sound policy decisions. The High Representative’s recent strategy is to engage in domestic politics with Dodik: to use such institutions as he has at his disposal against him, such as investigations by the State Court. The aim is apparently to weaken Dodik, and occupy him with domestic political battles rather than the pursuit of an RS statehood project.

But this approach has no end game. Sooner or later the High Representative and his fellow international officials will leave; Dodik will stay. Second, even if it succeeds, a successor to Dodik will almost certainly be more extreme and push the country into crisis more rapidly. Third, the plan of moderating separatist ambitions through creation of ancillary political problems may have the opposite political effect. It may accelerate separatism as the most effective means of counter-attack.

It is, therefore, not hard to conclude that the current strategy of the High Representative is part of the problem rather than the solution. What other options are available? One is to do nothing – abandon hard power in post-war Bosnia and let the country’s domestic politicians make of it what they can, at least in the short term. Perhaps they will dust off a grand bargain and catastrophe can be averted. Left to its own devices, the RS might find reason to cooperate with the Federation over a number of issues, leaving some state institutions formally intact.

There is plenty of commercial activity between Bosnia’s entities. This would suggest an economic rationale for retaining a common currency (now pegged against the euro and remarkably stable), common transport and infrastructure, free movement of goods, people and services, harmonized legal systems, and even a common regime of indirect taxation.

If and when some act of de jure independence does occur, the international community may be forced reluctantly to accept it. Short of military intervention, there is little it will be able to do. Russia would veto UN sanctions. The EU probably would refuse to recognise RS passports and other documents but it is not clear what this would achieve beyond imposing fresh hardships on the population. In any event most Bosnian Serbs hold Serbian passports. Current foreign investors in the RS, many of whom are from Eastern European members of the EU, would lobby against economic isolation of the RS. Its situation appears economically and politically stable: in the centre of Europe, it has a tolerably professional government, a measure of foreign investment, and an unsubsidised, balanced, government budget.

International isolation of an independent RS will prove difficult and in all likelihood unproductive as it is unlikely to achieve any significant result. A diplomatic black hole in the centre of Europe will also be dangerous to Western Europe’s security interests. If a self-proclaimed independent RS is not recognised, it cannot sign extradition treaties, it cannot be a member of INTERPOL, and it is difficult to send international technical assistance to support domestic police and security forces (as happens currently).
If formal recognition of Republika Srpska as an independent state by Western Europe and the United States is unrealistic, there are some prudent steps that pragmatic Western powers can undertake to guard against the danger of violent conflict erupting when Bosnia collapses.  Every measure should be used to ensure that even if gradual de facto independence is inevitable, and to a great extent has already occurred, any act of declaration of de jure independence – which might incite Bosniaks to take up arms, and Croats to themselves secede – is postponed indefinitely. If the proper aim is delay, the international community can do nothing better than to leave the country alone, at least for now. The current strategy – of giving Dodik pretexts to detach himself from the rest of Bosnia – can only catalyse the secessionist agenda.

Second, temperate politicians must be supported. The Prud negotiations showed voices of moderation exist in post-war Bosnia. The international community must restrain Bosniaks from doing what will come naturally to them – fighting to prevent the disintegration of their country. However much sympathy for the Bosniaks’ situation one may have, knowing the atrocities perpetrated against them, their political aspiration of a unified Bosnia governed by majority rule is possible only for so long as the international community is prepared to run the country as a colony. That level of commitment has evaporated. The Bosniaks must thus be gently disabused of their unitary political agenda, or they surely will be prepared to go to war for it, and foreign Muslim fighters will again be drawn in as they were in the 1992-95 war.

For international politicians familiar with the injustices of Bosnia’s first war, this is an unpalatable message. But the time is long past for pursuit of perfect moral ideals. There danger of catastrophe unfolding in Bosnia is real and the overwhelming aim must be to prevent a second Bosnian war. The least bad option is to preside over Bosnia’s inevitable gradual disintegration with a moderating hand, ensuring it happens slowly, so its citizens become accustomed to the evolving political landscape. We must keep all parties calm and moderate, to prevent outbreaks of local violence or wholesale mobilisation. In this unenviable position into which the international community has manoeuvered itself, this is the best we can now do.

Matthew Parish was formerly Chief Legal Adviser to the International Supervisor of Brcko. His book on international intervention in post-war Bosnia, A Free City in the Balkans: Reconstructing a Divided Society in Bosnia, is published by I.B. Tauris. www.matthewparish.com



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Comments:
Back to the Future
2009-11-19 13:51:30
Matthew Parish concludes, "We must keep all parties calm and moderate, to prevent outbreaks of local violence or wholesale mobilisation. In this unenviable position into which the international community has manoeuvered itself, this is the best we can now do." Having been born into post-World war Europe I've always found it difficult to understand the enthusiasm with which Chamberlain's return from Munich in 1938 was greeted in the UK. Reading Parish has given me a glimpse of what appeasement actually meant.

Allegations and facts
2009-11-19 15:29:54
Matthew Parish writes: "These structures were created by threatening Bosnian Serb politicians, sullied by associations with wartime crimes, with a one-way ticket to the International Criminal Tribunal for Yugoslavia, ICTY, if they refused to cooperate. ... But then ... things changed. Most fundamentally, everyone who could be deported to The Hague had been." The author's bald assertion that Bosnian Serb politicians were kept in line by "deporting" those who refused to cooperate to The Hague bears scant resemblance to what really happened. Among the post-Dayton leaders in Bosnian Serb politics only two ended up in The Hague -- Biljana Plavsic and Momcilo Krajisnik. Both of them had already left political office by the time they were indicted by the ICTY, arrested and sent to The Hague for trial (not "deported"). In Plavsic's case, far from being uncooperative, she had been something of a favorite of the West. If this was "punishment," it's not at all evident what she was being punished for -- other than the crimes against humanity to which she pleaded guilty at The Hague. The notion that the ICTY is a "political" court used by the Western powers to punish the Serbs is a well-worn staple of Serb nationalist political rhetoric. It is certainly what Mr. Dodik would say. But as a lawyer Mr. Parish should be careful about repeating such allegations as if they were established facts, which they are not. What evidence does he have to support it? In any event, by the time Mr. Parish arrived in Bosnia for his two-year stint as a legal advisor in Brcko (2005), "one-way tickets to The Hague" were no longer in the cards. In accordance with the exit strategy mandated by the UN Security Council, the Hague war crimes tribunal issued its last indictment in March 2004. That was more than five years ago and long predated the current political crisis.

re:
2009-11-19 18:14:28
I have to agree 100% with this article. To add, Bosnia was made on the same recipe as former Yugoslavia, however even former Yugoslavia was much stronger and more credible in the eyes of foreigners and locals, Bosnia is not, therefore it will not survive. At the end despite Croatia's reluctance to support the Bosnian Croats, they will support them because they are in the NATO and are sure to enter the European Union, therefore there is no more "carrot and stick" to persuade them to do otherwise. At the end, they will collaborate with the Serbs to disintegrate Bosnia just like they did in the last war until forced by the Americans to get along with the Bosniaks with the Washington Agreement. Bosnia is not only an ugly marriage where it is about to have a divorce, but there is a 3rd party in there (Croats) that do not also have any love for the other two sides.

Comment
2009-11-19 19:00:13
Mr. Perish, Your views very accurately reflect the impotent reflections of the EU in relation to the future of BiH. Dodik being a bully, just like Putin, does not at all translate into the RS being a state. You completely ignored, or misread, two important elements that will prevent the RS becoming a state: Bosniaks with the US backup will definitely not sit and watch their country being torn apart by Dodik, regardless of Bruxelles has to say about it. Secondly, Croatia will by no means accept having Serbia 50 miles away from it's capital, regardless of what the Croats in Herzegovina say about it. The south of Croatia has been secured in sttrategic sense having Bosnian Croats act as a buffer zone, the north by no means will be turned into Serbia. Just because a Dodik says so.

Genocide pays off
2009-11-19 19:49:34
Wonderful. Genocide pays off handsomely. Especially against Muslims. And what Bosniaks think is unimportant because they are Muslims and therefore second-class human beings. So, of course they must be restrained and be content to be ghettoized and put in a Balkan version of the West Bank and the Gaza Strip. They must be made to understand that they are the Palestinians of Europe. Of course, unlike the Palestinians they are not (yet) under ocupation by an enemy military force and hostile armed settlers; but the Bosniaks isolated in two small pockets around Bihac, and in the area between Mostar, Zenica, Tuzla and Sarajevo would hardly be able to survive on their own. Besides that: the Bosniaks are now already 50% of the population which would be crammed into roughly 25% of Bosnia's territory - a second Gaza strip with squalid living conditions. They will have nothing to lose. They will fight. Then it will of course be easy to label them as terrorists and to finish their extermination. We wll see them brought to their knees. And the message to Muslims wortldwide "You have no rights and no claims whatsoever except to kneel before us. And if you try to resist we will call you terrorists and destroy you." But then we knew that since 1948 already. And to my Bosniak friends I say: Do not sign away half of your country. Fight for it. Better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep. The West wants the clash of civilizations. It has done all that it will come about in Bosnia as a self-fulfilling prophecy. Well done Europe. Well done USA. Long live the clash of civilizations. Good news for the West's arms industriy. Good news for their military. And the Bosniaks? „Oh, it's their own fault. Why didn't they all go to Turkey in 1918? Europe does not want any Muslims except as underdogs because else they are monsters.“ And to my Bosniak friends I say: Do not sign away half of your country. Fight for it. Refuse to be sacrificed for „Peace in our time.“ Better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep. What else do you have to lose?

A second Palestine!
2009-11-19 20:47:23
This article reminds me of the old Jewish anecdote from Russia where a Cossack stopped a Jew on horseback, knocked him down and made off with the horse. The Jew saw the Cossack with his horse in the market square, complained to the magistrate and the Cossack was arrested. Said the judge: "Have you beaten this man and stolen his horse?" - "No, Sir, I found that horse on the road." replied the Cossack - "He lies!", shouted the Jew. "He stopped me, beat me and threw me off and rode away with my horse!" - "All right," said the Cossack, "I admit I found them both on the road, the horse and the Jew, but I had no use for the Jew." Likewise the Serbs in "RS" have no use for the Bosniaks who used to live there before the war. And if anybody here tries to accuse me of antisemitism: FYI, I found that story in a book by Dr. Salcia Landmann “A collection of old Jewish jokes” and the author and the book are in no way antisemitic. After all, Czarist Russia, where this story takes place, was one of the most anti-semitic nations on Earth, and modern Russia is no better. Thus, the magistrate would, based on the Cossack's argument that he “found both the horse and the Jew, but had no use for the Jew” have acquitted him. Like the author of this article wants that the serbofascists be acquitted of genocide and the misbegotten creature "RS" founded on genocide is legally recognized and the Bosniaks made to swallow the defeat whole. And the messgae to Muslim peoples worldwide "Your rights are of no account, and we don't want you in Europe!" Or maybe Mr. Parish is on Dodik's side? I mean, he dismisses Muslims , including the Bosniaks, as savages and barbarians. Well, in that case I can tell you that the Bosniaks will NEVER recognize an independent Repluka srpska! And they will take it back someday even if it is in 100 years! And since I know how Republika Srpska came into being it will not break my heart if it disappears exactly the same way. After what those people did I do not want to be associated with them in any way, nor do I want any of my family to be associated withthem in any way. And. Mr. Parish, how are you going to explain what youwrote to the Mothers of Srebrenica? Ah, I forgot...they are Muslims. What happened to them, and their opinion, doesn't count. the sacrifice of Bosniaks was necessary "for peace in our time"! That then the world will have a second Palestine...so what?

I would parish out of shame if I wrote this
2009-11-20 16:51:05
Bosnia WAS NOT made at the same manner as Yugoslavia, because it exists for about 1000 years as a single country and it passed through almost all political and institutional changes that almost all European countries went through, from kingdoms to modern societies. Yugoslavia was formed in 1918, Mr. Parish and commentators who are trying to sell this "argument", called LIE. Bosnian name is oldest in Balkans, and these divisions of today are the result of brutal Ottoman rule which curbed and subdued the national movements of 19th century, creating three separate ethnicities out of same people through religious lines. Mr. Parish and some commentators are really weak with Bosnia and Herzegovina on terms of politics and history. Question for Mr. Parish: Are you ready to take the responsibility (in case of conflicts) for deaths, concentration camps, rapes (children were even forced to rape their own parents (and vice versa) by Serbs, sexual organs were cut from parents and put into children who were left to live (as happened to my cousins) by BEASTS that Mr. Parish is strongly arguing for), which could be invoked by blowing wind in the wings of brutal individuals (that led Serbia and Srpska) that committed Nazi crimes? Are you ready to consider yourself a human being after that Mr. Parish? Will you be able to look in the eyes of any human being Mr. Parish? There is a handful of evidence and it is proven that the way Republika Srpska was created was NAZI, all NAZI methods were used, as it can be seen from verdicts to all segments to Bosnian Serb leadership that created THAT what you wish to become international subject, Mr. Parish. You are arguing for ideology that just got GENOCIDE verdict, Mr. Parish. People were persecuted, cleansed, killed and raped on the basis of their NAME, RELIGION and ETHNICITY! I only hope West will not choose this NAZI option of Mr. Parish as it did through Chamberlain in 1938 and got messed up, Milosevic in 1991 and got messed up in today's problems, but that it will FINALLY REALIZE that besides political mentors and military, one of the main culprits of genocide committed in Bosnia through AGGRESSION OF SERBIA, were the intellectuals and journalists. I hope that in the case of mass killing which could happen again by these "articles" and POLITICIANS (chauvinists, Dodik is a CHAUVINIST) that Mr. Parish obviously supports, and seeks to reward rebirth of Nazism in Europe, Mr. Parish could be indicted by International Tribunal for War Crimes. I hope Mr. Parish that no one will consider your children as cannon meat, rape victims or orphans who saw their parents throats being slain, in any near future, as you are doing to my children. Shame on you! I only can say I share feelings with anyone who feels repelled by such writings.

.....wishful thinking
2009-11-20 22:21:08
Bosniaks like to think that all of Bosnia is theirs even when they live on only some 30% of the land (even before the war). And they think that they will eventually have it all because of their high birthrates, which has been their goal for the past 100 years. They have sided with enemies of the Serbs every time foreigners have come to tear Yugoslavia or Serbia apart, so in any case they chose not to live with the Serbs and Croats. Remember, it was them that decided in 1991 they didn't want to live with the Serbs. They thought they could divide the Serbs and then rule by majority. The fact is Croats Bosniaks and Serbs will never again be so mixed and live in a unitary state like Yugoslavia, forget Bosnia it has been anything but a unitary state. The divisions have been completed, and the blood has been spilled, the hate is there and they will not live. A similar situation of what happened was in Lebanon, but the main difference is the Lebanese be it Christian or Muslim knew that they were too tangled together so they had to get along with, they had no one to look to really outside. Bosnia is different, the Croats and Serbs are too nationalistic and they will never look to the Bosniak ruled Sarajevo as their capital. There is no point in going back anymore. Oh and for any of you talking about how RS was created on a massacre of 8000 Bosniak men and 4 years of war, the whole Bosniak nation was created by 500 years of Turkish terror and wars mostly on the expense of the Serbs, on their population culture and land. The Serbs have suffered 100x more than the Bosniaks could ever wish for

good article
2009-11-21 02:32:04
good article, lets face it.. Bosnia will no longer exist in a few years. The problem is, muslims think all of Bosnia is theirs, but it's not. The muslims should be happy that they will even have their own country.. that land belongs to serbs, and some croats. Soon bosnia will be 3 seperate countries. Srpska (serbian) which will eventually join Serbia. Herceg-Bosna (croatian) which will join Croatia. And the muslims will have their own country... Bosniaka because BOSNIA represents all 3 people, not just the muslims.

my view
2009-11-21 04:49:50
Everybody talks about how Serbs mistreated others, to all those why don’t you look at ethnic map of Yugoslavia from 1938 and compare it to today map. Croatia had 35% of Serbs in 1938 now there is only few % left. In Bosnia there was more than 50% now it is around 33%. How did Serbs mistreat others at the same time disappear. We just want to protect our land and kids from others and leave in peace with our neighbours

Chief Legal Adviser
2009-11-21 10:49:16
Chief Legal Adviser? Really? Mr Parrish might usefully go back to law school to find out a little more about the concept of the rule of law.

Parrish is wrong
2009-11-21 17:50:02
Parrish, like a lot people without any knowlage about unreasonable nature native people on Balkan,making political pamphlet in range of science fiction. If is truth about breaking of former Yugoslavia, and that fact about Bosnia is like YU,also is truth YU desapered in bloody war and Bosnia could be "gone" in war too.There is no model for peacefull disolution in Bosnia.It is not enough to live couple years in Bosnia to be relevant political analist like Parish.His article is not desereve more attantion, as bad joke.Just waste of time

Weird comments
2009-11-21 18:34:12
Some weird comments to the article. Who says that muslims are second-rate? Are Serbs themselves second-rate for having lost Kosovo? And comparisons with Hitler are simply laughable - a man, who wants independence for his nation, on his land, is now Hitler. Right. How clever. Finally, there is no collective guilt on Serbs. Why should the whole nation suffer for the crimes of the few? Moreover, why should they sacrifice their future - where's the logic in that?

Live in the Present; or Die for Past Hatreds?
2009-11-24 20:49:45
It seems to me that some commentators here, especially Bosniaks, positively relish a re-run of the last civil war. Between 1991 and 1995, around 100,000 Bosnians were killed in the name of ancestral hatreds. Some political leaders justified this on the basis of 'collective responsibility' for the second world war, while others cited homicidal grievances going back to the Ottoman and even Byzantine empires. Is this alternation of vicious civil war and hostile un-civil peace (presided over by foreign bureaucrats) really how you want to spend the next 100 years? To me (and perhaps I am just ignorant), it seems that a federated Bosnia in which the RS has constitutionally devolved autonomy whilst acting cooperatively as part of the Bosnian state, and respecting the rights of all ethnic groups, is by far the best way to reconcile and make the best of the bad situation inherited there. According to the RS, constitutional devolution is what Dodik wants (he opposed the wartime SDS leadership). Independence should be the last resort for the RS if it faces total intransigence and unreasonableness from the rest of the country - and then it should seek only to protect it's citizens and do all in it’s power to restrain them from reprisals if they are attacked. Will Bosnians of all ethnicities work together for a harmonious federation? Or is vengeance for Srebrenica, in the form of new massacres of innocents, the real priority? As an Englishman I cannot know, only hope.

to Pavel
2009-11-24 23:22:36
"Nation builders" with genocide verdicts, Mr Pavel. http://www.icty.org/

how will it look?
2009-11-25 04:55:00
Srpska will look like Krajina in 48 hours after declaring independence on land stolen by genocide.

ss
2009-11-25 13:35:18
indipndence, what indipendence after genocide, no wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy.

The real lessons here...
2009-11-25 22:33:00
are accept the initial vance-owen treaty, and avoid the death of 100,000. If you did that, if saner heads were allowed to prevail, there wouldn't be a mess at all. When you allow secession from the former Yugoslavia, you better have a plan in place for minority groups, especially if many of those minorities are armed. This was for solving diplomatically in 1991, not 1995, or 1999, or 2001, as the author imagines.

"cooperative RS ?!?"
2009-11-26 19:07:28
Ah, so the Bosniaks should not look back? forgive and froget you say, when teh ASerbs alwaayss invoke Jasenovac and teh Turks to justify Srebrenica? a cooperative RS, when all the Serbs have ever done is make life miserable for Bosniaks, Englishman, for how stupid do you take us? There is oly one solution for Bosnia, the Rwandan one!

Re: The real lessons here...
2009-11-26 21:35:07
In response to Dan Allen's comment. I accept that the Vance Owen Peace Plan would have made for a far more satisfactory resolution of the Bosnian war. It would have foreclosed the prospect of Bosnian Serb independence, because the Serbs would not have had continuous territory. Today's dangers would have been greatly ameliorated. However, the number of lives saved would not have been as many as Mr Allen suggests. Some 70% of the dead perished in the first six months of the war. In the event, the peace agreement reached was Dayton. It was a partition plan, with its own ugly logic, that 11 years of intrusive international intervention have proved unable to reverse.

Truth?
2009-11-29 03:32:16
When muslims and croats took arms and start killing 18 years old boys in yugoslav uniforms in 1992 nobody sad anything. Same heapend when albanians was kidnaping old people from their farms... So please, dont stop crying for those "freedom" fighters, becouse justice will come one day..

Justice will come one day
2009-12-02 19:17:49
Oh yes, justice will come some day, and history will show what happened. But not the way the Serbofascists think. Bosnia will prevail and the Bosniaks will prevail. "Ima Bosnia i bosnjaca u njoj. Bili su prije vas i bice su i poslije vas!"

Reply to "Genocide pays off"
2009-12-03 16:33:24
"Fight for it. Better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep. The West wants the clash of civilizations. It has done all that it will come about in Bosnia as a self-fulfilling prophecy. Well done Europe. Well done USA." Who needs Europe or the USA with such an inward looking mentality to fight, fight, fight? This is the kind of mentality that has resulted in the terrible crimes which have been committed in the first place - in Bosnia and elsewhere! Don't try to place the blame on anyone else when you alone are propagating such violence! This comment is applicable to many people who commented on here - Bosniak, Serb, whoever - who continue to propagate such dividing and inciting ideas with such comments...you have freedom of speech, but acknowledge what you're saying and propagating...

Ancestral hatreds
2009-12-04 12:26:53
"Englishman", as another Englishman I owe you thanks for reminding me how shamefully our government used the notion of "ancient hatreds" to avoid taking action to prevent ethnic cleansing and mass slaughter. You know very well what Dodik is up to now, just as I presume you knew what Milosevic and Karadzic were up to in 1992. Please don't pretend objectivity and don't try to claim the voice of your fellow countrymen and -women.

What action could we take, Owen?
2009-12-05 16:39:33
I am one English man, I never claimed to be all of them. However, everyone knows that we Brits are into Afghanistan up to our eyeballs these days and so the idea of us becoming embroiled in any new Bosnian civil war is laughable. Ten years ago, the perception that we should have leapt into the Bosnian war as active participants (losing many of our soldiers to create the current stalemate more quickly) was rampant. It was this thinking that led first to our intervention in Kosovo (where the ethnic cleansing and stalemate is ongoing albeit slower and quieter with the Kosovans currently having the upper hand). Next came Iraq, which is (incredibly) now a far worse place to live than it was under Saddam's murderous regime and UN sanctions. The principle difference that we and the US have made in Iraq has been that terror is no longer a state monopoly there. The Brits left because the Iraqi parliament refused to allow us to stay, hardly a ringing endorsement, though at least it enabled our government to extricate us. And now we waste our brave soldier's blood in Afghanistan...where to start? This message is already too long. In short, the wheel has turned, and sticking our snouts into any other people's countries will not be popular in Britain with any but minority ideologues for at least another decade. If the people of Bosnia can agree to cooperate as an independent federal nation, then that would be good for them and good for the world. If, like Basija, they would rather fight it out, then they are on their own. And if you cannot tell a moderate like Dodik from an extremist like Karadzic then there is little hope.

Continuous territory?
2009-12-05 21:17:30
"It would have foreclosed the prospect of Bosnian Serb independence, because the Serbs would not have had continuous territory." - Matthew Parish And Republika Srpska now has "continuous territory" Mr. Parish? Did you actually step outside of your office building during your time in Brcko or did you perform your job exclusively in front of a computer screen? Leaving aside the legal position of the district, with the rate of refugee return in that town(as should have happened throughout BiH were it not for a total lack of international will), it is questionable whether Serbs form any more than a plurality of the population. In fact, as I understand it, Bosniak-Muslims have returned to their pre-war neighborhoods in sufficient numbers now that there is a continuous stretch of predominantly Bosniak-inhabited territory from Sarajevo to the river Sava. This effectively splits the Republika Srpska, already in the shape of a large intestine, in half. Do you honestly expect this Bosniak population - having poured blood and sweat to return to their homes after being subject to ethnic cleansing and brutal war crimes in 1992 - to kneel over and allow a Serb state to be build over their backs? The Republika Srpska does NOT have continuous territory, and this fact would become apparent within hours of any supposed proclamation of independence.

A thought
2009-12-06 09:08:22
Unfortunately, a break up of Bosnia seems very real and frankly is and has always been inevitable. Ethnically, the country is already divided. Culturally, it could not be anymore divided than it already is; such as the case in the cities of Mostar and Brcko-so is throughout the entire country where there is no clear majority of 1 group over the other. The entire Dayton Plan is backfiring, it did not solve the problems that led up to the initial war-nothing but a ceasefire was accomplished. Dodik's nationalistic agenda of secession is nothing new in the works; this has been a lurking problem since he literally took office. Republika Srpska has a given right for independence, and if Dodik carries through, it will not be long before Serbia annexes new territory compensating for Kosovo. Humanitarian rights issues are also the case, as Croats are underrepresented. Croats are more like the second class citizens in Bosnia and naturally want their own entity to represent and protect them: since the Federation is politically-as it exists-Bosnijak dominated. Bosnia's survival as a functioning country will never exist without any major referendum to the constitution-that's given. If, however, break up of the country is the case; I trust the region will be spared of bloodshed.

RS
2009-12-11 01:49:16
It funny how every seccession from the serb majority is justifiable and the crimes committed against serbs in those actions are blatantly ignored. Every form of separation of serb lands and people from serbia is justifiable, and every attempt by serbs to stop that is a genocidal act? This is the grossest form of double standards and has been prevailing in the balkans ever since the 1990's. The serbs have the right of self determination in bosnia, just as the croats and slovenes did in Yugoslavia, and just as the Albanians in Kosovo were granted that right as well. Why arent the serbs allowed the same. If politicians conuinually insist in Sarajevo that Republika Srpska is a genocidal creation and should not exist, then what do you expect RS to do? Idly stand by and let the mulsim majority dictate everything to it? of course not.. Sarajevo does not want a cooperation between the 3 constitutional people, it wants domination. Thtas the whole point of its independence campaign from Yugoslavia.. Why would they be any different today...??? The territorial conintuity of RS is a problem... But if a numerically inferior RS Amry could hold Brcko against BA Forces and their Nato sponsors and Mujahadeen imports, then im sure they can take it and hold it just as easily today.

I would like to ask one thing:
2009-12-13 09:31:30
How can Republika Srpska be an independent nation if its territory is divided in two by the Brcko district, currently under supervision of Sarajevo authorities? And what to do with the Federation’s Posavina canton at the northeast of Republika Srpska?

Muslims always the victims?
2009-12-14 07:40:42
R.S. is one of the only places on this planet where non-Muslims appear to be able to defend themselves against Islamic aggression. Wherever non-Muslims live as minorities with Muslims they are treated as second class citizens, like in Turkey, Egypt, Pakistan, Iraq, and all over the world. As an American I dare say American Christians not would just sit by and watch yet another minority population subjugated by their Muslim neighbors, personally my life would not be worth living if I did not heed a call, I'm not Eastern Orthodox, but the world has been polarized. Now that Europe, and America has actually gotten a taste of what it is like to have to live next to Muslims, we are beginning to understand Bosnia in a different light. If I was a Bosnian Muslim I would not count Americans as your friends, just being honest. In fact as a Christian, I'd warn you against any aggression against R.S. if it wants independence. Let it be and pray for peace is what I say. The recent Swiss vote on minarets should speak volumes about public opinion.

Anti-Muslim = FASCIST!
2009-12-31 16:38:23
What "Islamic aggression", "Bauer"??? Can you show me what you are talking about? And what does Pakistan or Egypt have to do with Bosnia?? so, according to you, Ratko Mladic should be then awarded teh Congressional Medal of Honor or what??? God beware that people like you should ever gain power, then we would have the new fascism, just like that of the 1930s. And Bosniaks will NOT knuckle under, nor will they ever again be led like lambs to the slaughter as in Srebrenica!

Why So Bad
2010-01-01 03:35:56
Why is it bad for independance? i think it is a good thing...

who is right
2010-01-13 16:48:51
RS was on the verge of collpase during the bosnian war until NATO pushed for Dayton peace agreement. Historlly the bosninan muslims are the most innocent of them all, not incuding turks. whatever history may be it is at the moment repudent to speak of. The internatinal community has spent billions of dollars in bosnia and many brave peacekeepsers died. croatia would not want to get involved with bosnia and would protect its interest by joining EU and NATO. Croatia would support a unified bosnia except for the croats in bosnia. The current Serb president said he would like to see a unified bosnia. The bosniaks are now grearter in number and better armed then before. Europe would not want a gaza strip in europe! if anything were to happen it surely will result in war. Bosnia belong to Bosniaks and not just muslim bosniak but anyone who loves bosnia. the bosnian army fought for a unified state for all peoples! bosniaks will rise up in arms against RS and would probably win since they were on their way of winning the war previously until the U.S. stopped the war. The serbs should be thankful that the americans helped them otherwise serbs would have been expelled from bosnia! Bosniaks would never accept RS independence nor would the rest of the world!!!

Quick Solution
2010-01-20 14:12:35
Don`t waste time and start War For Independence Of RS (my message to all Serbs in RS).It sound so cruel but history as shown, give us more violent solution for crisis than a peaceful ones. Even the United States, so call the "cradle of democracy" has it`s own War For Independence and for that reason the 4th of July "The Independence Day".I want to be as clear as possible I do not imagine war to be anything as it was in early 90`s,just a quick action that will confirmed a will of people after the referendum, if it ever occurred, and I hope it will unless something else come out to solve this "internal" problem of Bosnia and Herzegovina (in German Herzog means Duke, on the Serbian - Vojvoda.Why German word? Simply `cos there want be two Serbian Duke from both Vojvodina in Austro-Hungarian Empire.)

"Quick solution"
2010-01-21 01:36:52
Don't even dream of trying it!

REPUBLIC OF SRPSKA
2010-02-02 20:09:45
No War is nice and it is unfair. Croats, Muslims had many help from EU and US. They think that they have the right to draw countries and decide what will happen and what not. No, Krajina was destroyed because, US and others said so. They told Croats, that Serbs won't defend it with all their force and so on... You should read a little bit. Muslim are muslim, we shouldn't hate people, but extremists witch can also be found in Bosnia are not ''good people''. Serbs live in Bosnia a long, long time. The war was a big tool for everyone. The best thing is, that every side becomes what it deserves. If Muslim or Croats will attack, they will pay for it,... and they sure won't attack if they won't had like 50 countries behind them... and so on... People, read some documents... If you would live there,... you couldn't even imagine... Don't you know, how many crimes did Croats and Muslims done in the past?... and for most of them they didn't have to go to curt or pay for it. So people that have suffered the most are Serbs. No matter, Bosnia must no longer be in the form as it is now. Independent RS,... and so on.... times change, people HAVE RIGHT... LIKE PEOPLE IN KOSOVO??? No way, this is different,... In Kosovo never lived so many Albanians,.. they moved to Kosovo like 50years ago... and now they have their own ''LAND-COUNTRY'' this is criminal, beacuse BIG countries decided so.. and so it must be... People show some respect!!! The is no need to be any kind of violence if Bisnia colapses now! Pukovnik Colic - 5th Kozara Brigade

victims
2010-02-21 20:08:49
Republik of Srpska will be an independent country. We Serbs hove rights, because we are true victims in entire history including wars in 90s. If Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia , kosovo had rights to be independent then we Serbs in Bosnia have the same rights. We don't want to live under domination of islam extremists. Crime in Srebrenica(not genocide) happened because of crimes against Serbs in same region from 1992 to 1995. Same muslim men who were killed in 1995, killed about 3200 innocent Serbian civilians-women, children and old people. And there wasn't 8000 Bosniak men, there is no proves for that, there is no list with names, nothing, it is just campaign.

Miki "RS" will not prevail
2010-02-24 13:52:05
If moderate Serbs are like that, what are the radicals then like? And no, don't even dream of it. Try it and it will be your last mistake. "And there wasn't 8000 Bosniak men, there is no proves for that, there is no list with names, nothing, it is just campaign." Oh yes, there IS a list, on the Potocari Memorial, and everybody can see it.

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